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[–] BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Honestly I think DDR4 is the right call for an everyday-use PC anyway. I might be showing my ignorance here, but when I upgraded my PC I got DDR5-6000 and the memory training times are INSANE. The first few times I tried to boot I wound up restarting because 5 mins after hitting the button it still hadn't shown the manufacturer's logo and I assumed it was busted. Once it finally does finish the training, it usually doesn't have to do it again for a while... but sometimes it does! Totally randomly (as far as I can tell), I'll go for a quick reboot, maybe swapping from my Linux install back over to Windows or something, and what should be a 15 second wait is now suddenly a full 5+ minutes.

Near as I can tell, DDR5 Just Does That Sometimes??? How is that an upgrade!? I guess I'm probably seeing some performance gains from the faster timing, but man, sometimes I think I'd trade it in exchange for never having to wait on a black screen for minutes at a time.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You can turn off memory training in BIOS, fyi.

[–] Minnels@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago

I have never heard of memory training? What is this? Something new with DDR5?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yea you don't really get to choose though, unless you're willing to go with a 2 generations old CPU just to get DDR4. Even the newest generation is over a year old for AMD, the DDR4 compatible stuff is 5 years old now and leaves you no upgrade path.

Mind you, I'm on a Ryzen 3000 series CPU, I could still upgrade to a newer and more coreful AM4 CPU AND get more RAM without having to go DDR5. But anyone building in 2026 probably doesn't want to get a Ryzen 5000 series CPU anymore.

[–] Ashtear@piefed.social 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Yeah, I'm planning on leap-frogging this time for this very reason. I tend to get GPU-bottlenecked more often than not, so hopefully whatever GPU I pick up next year will extend my system long enough for a little more sanity to return.

[–] BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago

of course i know, or id have put my money where my mouth is, and ram alone is too pricey for that now. id have to get a new motherboard too. i love my op cpu, this pc rocks when it's working (which is 99% of the time), but when training time comes it's still frustrating that the new shit is so busted for me