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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Unfortunately the saying refers to soft men like Trump et. al., not femboys.

God I wish we had a femboy president and cabinet... I'm not even attracted to them. I just know they'd be infinitely better than the fucking fascist cheeto et. al..

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

no its about femboys. read history

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

can confirm I lived in the Roman empire 👍

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You'd be surprised by the amount of nazi femboys there are...

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 3 points 19 hours ago

Eh... I'm aware how insufferably 'bottom' many of them are. To want to be a nazi whilst being a type of person they would likely dislike is ... pretty strong bottom energy.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is still not the criteria to decide who decides...

... Nor correct reasoning. Femboys can be fascist too. These are not mutually exclusive sets. So no, you are in error asserting you know they'd be better, if you're saying they'd not be fascist. Power corrupts, and corrupted feboys may be a devil we don't know. I'd rather not have a devil making machine. No matter which flavour of devils. I do not want a devil making machine. Putting women in power, did not mend it. Putting "black faces in high places", did not mend it. But putting femboys in the power structure shaped for fascism, is going to mend it? May be yet missing the lesson to learn here. ~ Sorry Martin Luther King. I'm tryin.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm absolutely positive there are fewer femboy fascists than Republican fascists.

My comment is not about the most ideal government, nor about power structures, but a direct comparison of two specific things.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

fewer

So your "know" is just a gamble.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

A gamble with better odds than the 100% chance we currently have... How fucking dense can you be?

It shouldn't be fucking difficult to understand that a gamble is better than a guarantee.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 hours ago

Your aggressive ad-hominem, and moved goal posts, is uncompelling. Sorry I've failed to help elucidate the epistemics here for you, past your apparent identity attachment with this that's causing such a social-dominance limbic-reaction occluding critical thinking, but given that reaction, I'm losing confidence in my abilities to cut through the emotion to get this correspondence back to the simple logic, and shan't even try. Hoping you find the way to feel better.

[–] JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those two aren't men, they're an enby and a trans woman.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yet they still make me hard. Curious

[–] JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I've heard this random theory that everyone is naturally pansexual (or asexual of course, though this not specified in the original theory (the original theory was a short Discord message, I'm expanding on it massively)), and that attraction only to particular sexes/genders/presentations etc. is a social construct, and that preference for particular traits or presentations is what being "straight" or "gay" or "bi" or "pan" acually is. I think this is reasonable and likely be true, but of course it could also not be.

The "but reproduction instinct" counterpoint doesn't actually hold up against actual nature. There are many instances of same sex attraction in animals. I wonder, are the animals "gay" (same sex attraction only), are they "bi" (attraction to males and attraction to females), or are they "pan" (attraction does not take sex into account or has some but little regard for it). Probably some of each, I wonder what the proportions are. Telling between bi and pan may be difficult in this case.

This definitely needs research.

https://www.worldwildlife.org/resources/explainers/are-there-queer-animals/ https://www.discoverwildlife.com/animal-facts/can-animals-be-gay

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 hours ago

Growing up on a farm, I for sure saw a lot of eunuch on eunuch action. Circumstance, survival (including psychological), physiology & biology (especially hormones (like if gonads have been removed)), opportunity, and more, all play into sexual expression.

It certainly helps put aside cultural indoctrinations to reductive certain absolutes, growing up seeing that.

Which in turn helps avert getting tied up in neurotic knots about it all.

So I continue to fall back on "everybody's bi", rather than pondering about straight or gay, seeing the apparent of either just as temporal-circumstantial leanings within "everybody's bi". ... I could probably expand that asserted hypothesis as "everybody's pan", but I'm not sure how helpful or harmful that could be. Found peace enough in "everybody's bi" for myself.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

t'aint nothin wrong with it though