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This argument is frequently made on Lemmy. I’d like it to be true. But I just don’t know.
Makes sense in places like California or New York. But I don’t know about places in the Midwest e.g.
"We've never tried the inspiring candidate, but without evidence, I must insist that they're unelectable."
I mean, we did run the inspiring candidate. Obama. It was a huge success.
Did he turn out to be everything that everyone hoped and dreamed? No. But he energized the hell out of the base and at least the best president of the past few decades.
Exactly. And people were also saying then that we needed to go with the more electable candidate with more experience. That was the exact argument Hillary supporters made during the 2008 primary.
I hear you, but we've tried the strategies of the mainstream Democrats and they've failed hard.
Hopefully the recent ACA votes taught the Democrats that voting to end the shutdown was a terrible idea and that they should never again compromise with Republicans for mere promises of future consideration.
The Democrats should rally behind AOC and primary all corrupt bastards that enable the Republicans.
If Britain and Mexico can both elect a woman to lead their country, why can't the US?
Because half of the people who voted in the last election voted for Trump?
So?
Because this is a trashcan nation that votes for felon rapist insurrectionist pedophiles....twice.
Most supporters voted for him thrice. Just another old white dude got in the way that one time.
More like a worldwide pandemic got in the way. Biden couldn't have won without covid.
You're just doing the left version of American exceptionalism.
Because a solid percentage of the country quite literally wants women barefoot and pregnant, with another solid percentage following along with them because something something taxes something something jerbs.
This is just the woke version of American exceptionalism. Conservatives exist in all countries. Hell, Mexico is famous for its machismo culture.
I think you guys can both be correct here. Just because shitty people are all over the Earth, that does not negate the problems people point out with the US.
I did not see them say or even imply that the US is the only place with sexist conservatives, or that we are the worst in the world about it. It was answering a question about the US too.
I think we all know that there are places in the world that have been far worse for far longer in just about any bad way you can think of. But it's still pretty noteworthy when the world's superpower that once saw itself as a diverse melting pot and land of opportunity and democracy goes and elects somebody who literally said on TV that they would be a dictator. And this after that same person already did a horrible bad faith job for all the world to see.
California and New York are absolutely fountaining with conservative voters. These states only go blue because conservatives like Diane Feinstein and Gavin Newsom have found it easier to voice conservative policies from a liberal party than to voice liberal policies from a conservative one.
On the flip side, Bush Jr won Texas against Anne Richards by running to her Left and pandering to Hispanics and black voters while she pounded the old Dixiecrat drum on crime and drugs. Shortly thereafter, long time Democrat Rick Perry changed parties, because he decided it was easier to get oil money as a liberal Republican than a conservative Democrat.
Politics in this country is way more complex than people like to give it credit. So much is simply driven by the party with the most money or the most gerrymandered districts. What's winnable can boil down to whether or not your brother is the governor, not your race or your gender or even your voting record.
Meanwhile a democratic socialist won the mayorship of New York City.
Against a former Dem governor who was backed by a Republican president no less
That complexity sure sounds like corruption!
But realistically, corruption does add to the complexity, lol.