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Tesla Robotaxis Are Crashing More Than 12 Times as Frequently as Human Drivers
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this post was submitted on 17 Dec 2025
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I found this part to be even more alarming:
So despite a pitiful record with people trying to correct the cars mistakes, they're now ready to move on to running them without assistance?!? I am furious at the idea that our safety on the roads is this negotiable.
It’s insane how shit the US is at managing its cars considering how aggressively they’ve forced them as the only truly viable mode of transport. It sucks horribly to drive in North America but it’s the only option given to people. Like, if you’re gunna do the worst option at least do it right and have some pride in the system.
The US doesn’t give a fuck about its people.
Feel like some sort of trap. Being able to drive anywhere feels like it gives you so much freedom, the ability to go anywhere but the reality is there so much opportunity cost and financial cost to live in a car dominated society, even all the small things like convenience and safety all adds up.
An “convenience” is such a lie. I own a car and have a metro system and I almost never use the car. If I didn’t have parking in the back where I could just keave it it’d be even worse.
Regulatory capture is a hell of a drug.
The US has absolutely mad road to traffic laws. Zero concept of lane discipline, you driving whatever lane you feel like. Don't understand roundabouts even though it's just a curved road, it's really not that hard. Still don't have standardised pedestrian crossings even when other countries had them back in the 1920s. A red traffic light only means stop sometimes, but sometimes you can go if you're turning right. No one obeys the speed limit, people regularly exceed it, and see no problem with that. And of course no one has separate indicator lights and brake lights because when would you ever slow down and go around a corner, definitely no need to engineer for that eventuality.
It always means stop. You can turn right on red (in most places) but only after you stop first and you must yield to crossing traffic. Unfortunately, not everyone knows this - I've met many people who think "right on red" means you can treat it like a green light as long as you're turning right.
What really gets me pissed is the signs that say "right turn on red after complete stop" which implies that isn't the case fucking everywhere, when it is the case.
Kind of a tangent, but what really scares me about the "turn on red" rule is that it's not the same around the globe.
There are so many international drivers here in Japan that turn left at a red light without realizing that's completely illegal. It catches pedestrians completely off guard. I think on Montreal Island you couldn't do this either.
Stopping at a red light when wanting to turn isn't some rare, obscure situation, so people who are travelling have to BE ABSOLUTELY SURE about this rule before they make use of their international lisence.
Proof of concept fails in a spectacular fireball?
Fuck it, owners are too invested, ship it anyway.
Feels like I work for the same company.
Why repair the plane on the ground...if it's a real problem, we can fix it mid-flight.
Not trying to defend Tesla on this because fuck Musk and everything he touches but are there stats on how, when, and why the human took over? Did they just not take over? Did they take over to late? Did they take over and make the situation worse?
You raise an excellent point, one which i was hoping to find out more about as well. It turns out Tesla has been working hard to keep pretty much any pertinent information to answer your questions firmly under lock and key.
From this Electrek article https://electrek.co/2025/11/17/tesla-robotaxi-had-3-more-crashes-now-7-total/
So he's basically fudging the numbers and anytime he's questioned he points at the fudged numbers and says everything's great, he's great, now get out of the way while he deploys a fleet of these un-manned deathtraps to "half the US population" according to a properly ultra-super-inflated kind of claim only a douchebag like Leon can make. No, seriously--he actually claimed that by the end of 2025 he'll have these things serving half the population of the US.
https://electrek.co/2025/07/23/elon-musk-with-straight-face-tesla-robotaxi-will-cover-half-us-population-end-year/
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