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[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

As long as it is open source, it doesn’t matter. Forks like Librewolf will disable it.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It does matter a bit.

Librewolf devs depend on firefox development. They just rip out the stupid bits. They're not prepared to maintain a hard fork. They could still decide to do it, but it would take more community involvement.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

And a shitload of time to keep the fork relevant as web sites keep evolving.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Is there a Librewolf for phones? Can I somehow self-host the synchronization services?

[–] Rekonok@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I use fennec on phone

https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid

There is a shiton of browsers for phone but this one is often updated and the icon is cute (the most important feature)

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Fennec is slow to update actually (because of F-Droid mainly) and also it is NOT comparable to Librewolf.

[–] gtr@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

There is also Firefox Focus which us basically a stripped down fennec. I use it as my default browser with JS disabled.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is there a fennec like on desktop? I find librewolf has changed too much for what I want out of a Firefox fork. Websites just did not run the way I expected them to and I could not be arsed to fiddle with all of the different knobs to get them to work.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Zen is what I use, there's also Waterfox.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I liked Zen but it was a nightmare to deal with on multiple devices and dealing with multiple windows broke a lot of the essential stuff like them being unpinned on one window but not the new one but the new one has the original window essential now also as a standard tab. And they kept changing the way you switch between workspaces without the necessary customisation options to change it back and any of the mods that "fixed" those issues would then break unless updating the files manually because their fixes had to be merged into the main repo that zen uses for mods which didn't happen fast enough. So I gave up and and actually switched to edge briefly for it's implementation of vertical tabs (which i still think is done the best) until Firefox proper gained a good enough vertical tab implementation and I've been there since.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Install Firefox and disable telemetry, that's pretty much what Fennec does.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Ah that's what I already do

[–] Zimno@szmer.info 7 points 2 days ago

There's IronFox

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

You can actually host your own firefox sync service. It's kinda a pain to configure auth but it is entirely possible.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Fennec and IronFox.

[–] CtrlAltDefeat@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

AI and open source don't really go hand in hand

[–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Ollama + Mistral models is pretty open. All the code and weights are open with a permissible licenses.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today -3 points 2 days ago

If Luddites get their way, that will become the case forever. It is okay if you don't want AI in your personal life, but I worry that opposition like yours will ensure that only wealthy jackasses have ownership over AI.

The important thing is to support efforts to create truly open AI and make it a public good available to all. Projects such as LlamaCPP, Olmo, Apertus, Heretic, and others will be key to allowing ordinary people to become masters of the technology.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

if google is still the majority of the revenue, it will close it down the line.