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The commander of the arm of the U.S. military responsible for Donald Trump's illegal military occupations of American cities said he is willing to conduct attacks on so-called designated terrorist organizations within the U.S.

This startling admission comes after months of extrajudicial killings of alleged members or affiliates of DTOs in the waters near Venezuela, which experts and lawmakers say are outright murders.

Gen. Gregory Guillot’s sopenness about the potential for unprecedented military action within U.S. borders comes as the White House, Pentagon, and Justice Department continue to refuse to rule out summary executions of Americans on Trump's secret enemies list, after weeks of requests for clarifications from The Intercept.

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[–] supamanc@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The American revolution, Vietnam and Afghanistan were wars fought by occupying forces against indigenous populations. The guerrilla armies didn't have to completely eliminate the occupying force, thy just had to make it financially and politically undesirable to continue to fight. A civil war on the other hand, fought against the US government would have no such 'victory' condition. They would never decide to give up because they essentially can't be bothered any more. You would also be fighting against the intelligence apparatus of the state. The NSA, CIA, FBI etc. Who have to capability to track your every movement, freeze your bank accounts, seize your assets, stop your medical care, end your employment. And that of anyone who associates with you. How are you going to continue that fight for any sustained period of time?

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That fight would fundamentally change the circumstances we’re all in. I don’t know what the government will look like by that point, but it might have a hard time ending employments when nobody is employed to neutral organizations in the first place. Everything will either be for or against a revolution. Many ways of life will collapse, and the government relies on those too. So while they’ll certainly be at an advantage still, who knows what kind of fight we can give them?

[–] supamanc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

That's a good point - but it depends on total war breaking out pretty much immediately, there can be no slow build up or call to arms, because that period would be when the state is at its most powerful!

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And ALL of those agencies would be filled with enemy agents who would be sabotaging everything in every way possible. They would NEVER gain total control of the government.

And remember that when a corrupt, moronic government like MAGA kicks out all their experienced, patriotic military and political leaders, and replaces them with drooling sycophants, theyve strengthened their enemies, and weakend their own side. In addition, those at the very top are absolute idiots, who can be counted on to do the wrong thing, every time.

And those domestic enemies aren't just guerilla fighters, they are experienced military leaders and former insiders who know their enemy's every move, all their equipment, all their strategies, etc. They know what they'll do before they do it, because they probably taught it to them in the first place.

Every large country thought that there was no way they could be beaten, until they are. There are Americans who still think America has never lost a war, when we've lost several, or at least certainly didn't win them.

[–] supamanc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

At this point we're into wild speculation about how it would play out. You're describing an armed conflict where maybe some states have succeeded and there is in effect a civil war, with both sides Well armed, and supported by an industrial and financial base, and you make some good points. Although I think relying on the current level of incompetence in leadership to carry on is optimistic. I'm talking about the original premise of citizens in an armed insurrection. I don't fancy their chances.