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[–] 30p87@feddit.org 46 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Both aren't really private. Both is a for-profit company claiming it to be private.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For-profit company and private are not mutually exclusive though. Mullvad VPN for example is ~~as much~~ a for-profit company ~~as~~ unlike proton which is nonprofit, and arguably also one of the most private VPN services available.

[–] IDew@feddit.nl 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

No. Proton is a for profit company whose largest shareholder is a non profit foundation. As is written right in your linked post. The foundation is not the company.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Somebody get this user some lemmy silver.

[–] IDew@feddit.nl 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh. Didn't know lol. I just saw Proton blabla non-profit blabla and jumped to a conclusion too fast like I always do 🥴

You read something. Big points for real.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 4 points 1 week ago

Which isn't a bad thing, actually. Being a non-profit can make it hard to expand in some cases, but what makes for-profit companies shit is the shareholders calling for the upward going line, which isn't the motivator of the shareholder here.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 1 week ago

Even if you were correct in saying Proton is for profit, "for-profit" and "private" are not mutually exclusive.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Proton is not a for profit.

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

False. The Proton Foundation is a Swiss non-profit and does not have shareholders.

[–] greenacres3233@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Proton was created to serve the world, and the non-profit Proton Foundation ensures that this can never change. As Proton’s primary shareholder, the foundation exercises its control to ensure that Proton does not deviate from our mission to build a better internet that serves the interests of all of society.

Edit: meaning, there's a difference between the foundation and the company