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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/55094411

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[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 210 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

What the hell is happening in Denmark at the moment??

First forcing the chat control topic upon Europe, now this?

I looked up their government, would have expected far right or so, but it is liberal social democrat...

So what happens here?

[–] gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 103 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My bet is on a lot of bigtech ~~bribes~~ lobbying

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Big Tech has no interest in chat control, though.
They vehemently opposed it from the start.
How the Danish are acting just doesn't make sense...

[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's more complicated than that as control acts as a barrier to entry preventing competitive start ups entering the market and disrupting it so established players probably don't care as they can bare the cost of compliance if they have to.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

But it would be the other way around:
Established players would have to completely break and rewrite their existant transport layer in the whole world, just to be able to also cover the EU. (Or leave.)

While potential new competitors would be able to design it to comply right from the start.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Something is rotten in Denmark.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It isn't just Denmark. You see it here in Sweden, too. I'd be surprised if you didn't see it across Europe.

I'm not really happy with any of the big political parties here in Sweden. The Greens hate nuclear power so much they'd prefer to open up fossil fuelled power plants than keep nuclear ones up and running. The Left party work really hard to get out of the EU. These are both parties I align the best with.

The Social Democrats are just these milquetoast soft-core conservatives, pretending to care about issues but turning their coats the second they get the chance. Unfortunately they always end up leading any of the left-winged government coalitions, typically with the help from the Centre who then gets to dictate all the policies, so it just ends up being a centre-right government that sells out our welfare to private interests.

It's been like this for well over a decade at this point. Useless bunch, the lot of them.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah Sweden has been doing great strides toward a full surveillance state, it is creepy as fuck.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 6 points 3 days ago

All country leaders are looking at North Korea with loving eyes.

I remember how almost twenty years ago people were scoffing at the great firewall of China, how they’d restrict information and what not. Now all western countries are all “we must do this, for the children!

[–] iLStrix@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Wow, this is quite an interesting read, because you can write almost the same thing - word for word - about Germany. It's the same overall in Germany with a few differences like time (it has been going on for a lot longer here) and some of the left are a bit different.

[–] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 17 points 3 days ago

The soc.dem. are not a left party anymore. The current government consists of three different center-right parties. And they have some weird priorities sometimes.

[–] tjoa@feddit.org 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The social democrats copied a lot of anti immigration talking points from the right because this seems to be just popular in Denmark. I guess they are just weird.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But these laws are not anti immigration, they are anti freedom in general.

[–] tjoa@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

True, my guess is as good as yours. It feels like they paired seemingly good intentions (I mean who is against fighting CSAM right) with a complete lack of technical understanding and proportion. Maybe that’s not a political spectrum kind of think but generational lol. Idk tho it still confuses me how people can be so ignorant to go through with this.

[–] evilcultist@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

I wonder how much it has to do with the success and subsequent loss of this operation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Shield

Because it seems like a lot of countries in the west are pushing this kind of thing rover the last several years and there’s a heavy push right now. https://www.privacyguides.org/videos/2025/12/16/taylor-lorenz-on-kosa-the-screen-act-and-repealing-section-230/