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I've had some discussions in real life about what the best options would be for replacing the Canadian "First Past The Post" (and also the more-broken American system of course) system of voting and there are a ton of ideas.

Shout out to !fairvote@lemmy.world for inspiring this post.

Some examples are:

STAR

Single Transferable Vote

I also have come to find that different systems work better for different sizes of vote. For example, local elections vs. federal elections.

Some Starters (and don’t feel you have to speak on all or any of them if you don’t care to):

  • What systems do you feel would work better for local, provincial, and federal elections?
  • Do you even think about how it could be made better?
  • Could you be convinced to vote for a single-issue party that would implement better systems and then abscond? This has been a serious topic of discussion within my local group of mayoral and city council members. Since it would benefit those on all sides, do you think people could be convinced?
  • Is there a perfect system, or is every system you've seen lacking in some way?
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[–] randy@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

That's a nice analysis. I also want to share Ka-Ping Yee's 2D simulation visualization from 2005 that really highlights the theoretical problems with plurality (aka first-past-the-post, FPTP) and instant runoff (aka IRV, "ranked ballot"). Also see Brian Olson's and Warren Smith's additional simulations.