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I blame Democrats mostly. Their incompetence handed it to Trump. National parties need to go. All of them. But they couldn't have done it without the ignorance and apathy of most Americans. All those that stayed home. And the groups that focused on attacking the Democrats ignoring this threat. Don't get me wrong. They weren't wrong to attack and criticize Democrats. But it wasn't a good time to do that, and they definitely let themselves be manipulated. Who knows if well ever get another chance. But I doubt anyone learned.
From the outside it was very much the Democrats election to lose. The first time around Trump was a joke and losing to him was ridiculous, this time around Trump was a malicious threat and losing to him should only have been possible if you were trying to
Trump won because he ran against 2 women.
Biden was inevitable because of how shit Trump's policies were and that the public was in real pain from the 2017 Tariff and trade war..
Once the Democrats had tipped the economy back onto it's feet and were digging the country out, the pain subsided and the sexism reared it's head again.
That the Democrats couldn't see the most basic sexism working to Trump's advantage, is breathtaking. Any serious male Democratic candidate would have beaten Trump last year, but no.. We got touchy-feely women-power at the same time the online spaces were poisoned with gender identiy wars and it torpedoed ANY chance with a female candidate.
Will say one thing, the conservatve right knows how sexists think and for sure they leveraged men's rage to the detriment of everyone.
I'm not prepared to just buy the "it was sexism" excuse, that's a convenient one for Democrats to tell themselves - "oh, there was nothing wrong with the campaign we ran, Americans are just sexist". If a man had done exactly the same campaign as Harris did it would have ended the same way. Fundamentally the Democrats went with a "you guys have to vote for us" strategy and figured they just had to win over right leaning voters instead, and they didn't really win them over and lost chunks of the left at the same time. I'm not suggesting sexism played no part at all, but I'm not putting the blame solely or even mostly there.
Yeah, you're right on the "You have to vote for us.." thing.
"Champagne Elitism" has been a thing since before Obama.
I saw it take off in the mid-90's with the pivot to public high schools pushing everyone to college and ignoring vocational education. It's the college-degree, "educated" high-handedness of the neo-liberal, illiberal left, and a terrible blind spot.
Part of wy I have been screaming for decades for the left to stop using the phrase "..voting against their self-interest.." when referring to working poor voters that chose Trump.
They didn't vote against their self-interests, they voted to fuck themselves because they were too angry to think clearly.
The reality is, most working class voters - and yes, I'm one - do not KNOW what they want long term because they're stuck in the day to day survival mode.. (you can't think or plan long term when daily troubles are what you constantly have on your plate. Ask me how I know..)
For the "educated" affluent elite politicians to say what the poor should or should not want smacks of the very kind of high-handed arrogance that loses elections for the Democrats.
You're not wrong at all on it and wrap it up in sexism and it's a win for the orange asshole.. again.
I agree. It wasn't just sexism. Hillary had been positioning for decades. And politically smeared for decades because of it. She was a genuinely out of touch and not very likeable person that made a lot of unforced errors. With decades worth of baggage good and bad. That selfishly put herself above everyone else. Not taking things seriously.
Kamala had her own baggage and well as historically being a supremely uninspiring candidate. Who was thrown to the wolves at the last minute. Flailing incompetently to career death. Even if she doesn't realize it yet.
No, I disagree. It was all about the sexism. Cameron Harris would have won that election, taking all the same positions as Kamala Harris, with the only difference being his ownership of a penis.
The thing with modern misogynists is that they are self-aware enough to know that they can't just come out and say that they are voting based on what organs the candidates possess. So they fool themselves into using other excuses.... "she's a cop", "GeNoCiDe", or my favorite "she reminds me too much of my ex".
We know. Just as we know, there's also no significant evidence of that. While misogyny was involved in the race for sure. If you can look at either Harris or Clinton and say that was the driving force behind their losses. Then you're behaving willfully blind.
Harris was one of the lowest polling Democrats in the 2020 primaries. Who had spent years and years as district attorney. Applying biased injustice to vulnerable groups. There was lots of good reason not to like her beyond her sex. Likewise Hillary Clinton, who spent years in proximity to corruption and power. Where one of the last notably and objectively good things she did. Ended her career as a young Republican in the early 1970s. There was no lack of good things to dislike about her as well.
Don't get me wrong, I think both of them would have been adequate status quo presidents. Who would have continued the slowe decay. But they had a lot of baggage of their own creation that held them back more than any uterus did.
If that was the case, there'd be way more evidence of it. like the Epstein situation. Democrats stupidly thought they could serve two masters forever. The ones that give them power by electing them. And the ones that give them wealth by paying them off to do their bidding. And to be fair, it did sort of work for decades.
Don't fall into the same trap as the magats. The world generally doesn't know that you exist and certainly isn't conspiring against you. Nine times out of ten, it's selfish people doing stupid things in the moment, that they think will benefit them in the long run. They've been selfishly excepting kickbacks paid in American tax dollar aid to Israel refunded to them for nearly a century. No Democrats reached new levels of spindlessness, nor did Chuck Schumer set any new records for brow furrowing. Anyone who's paid attention in the last 40 years could have said this would be the outcome.
I blame the dumbasses who voted for Trump, and the dumbasses who didn't vote. It was not hard to vote against Orange Hitler if you had half a brain functioning.
No one is saying to ignore them. You aren't wrong. But if anyone is ever going to get a chance to do better and actually help people. We have to understand how and why our leaders failed us. And how to work together against the ignorance and malice, that's only going to get worse.
Of fucking course you do. There was no incompetence, there was bullshit propaganda from the likes of you.
Dumb fucking "progressives" gloating about bringing Trump back to power.
Yup no incompetence in an old man forgetting to tell everyone that he was going to run again. After famously making a statement about him not planning on it. Causing them to cancel the primaries that already started. Absolutely zero incompetence in just carrying on for so long not acknowledging his own declining popularity and abilities. Waiting till the last possible moment to withdrawn. No incompetence In then appointing the wet fart of a Democrat. That had spent four years as his vice president accomplishing nothing. While at the same time, being one of the least popular Democratic primary candidates from 2020. I'm sure it all went according to plan.
Though it's still hilarious to hear your accusation after so many tried claiming I was some sort of neoliberal. Stating that we needed to vote otherwise Trump would get in. I see no one's learned anything, predictable.