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Meme or whatever, but fuckwits that keep cats outdoors (and cat hoarders) are the main reason why my charitable donations to animal groups focus on spay/neuter programs rather than shelters. I know the animals in shelters need help too, but reducing the inflow of animals into the shelters helps them as well.
And reduces hazards to wildlife from cats, whether they be outdoor pets, strays, abandoned, or feral.
And reduces demand for meat-based cat foods.
It's the most efficient way to help that I can think of.
my environmental science teacher spent an hour talking about what apex predators cats are and how terrible outdoor cats are….
they pretty much kill for fun, all day….
if you declaw your cat (which is evil) and put a bell on it, then the last thing the bird will hear is a bell ringing while being batted to death.
they just decimate the local wildlife.
Cars kill 1000000x more than cats. If you care about wildlife, that's where you'll put your dent.
I have 3 outdoor cats. The older 2 take out 1 mole, 1 mouse and 0.3 birds a week. Combined.
The younger is a terror tho. 2 birds, 2 moles, 2 mice, a week.
Rural
a: not even kinda true.
b: one thing being bad for wildlife doesn’t make another thing that’s bad for wildlife stop also being bad.
c: they take out way more than that, they just bring back a mole as a tip for you. Scientists have tracked and followed cats and they kill for fun, all day.
e: check out Toxoplasma Gondii, the cat-rat brain parasite that infects human brains too… the reason pregnant women aren’t supposed to change litter boxes…
i love cats and grew up with outdoor cats and i love seeing them enjoy it and go on little adventures. However, it’s terrible for your local wildlife. With farms and pesticides everywhere, humans’ yards have become a lot more important.
Actually it's true, about the death thing.
And your argument seems to be more "letting your cats out is bad". I disagree.
no, it’s letting your cats out is bad for wildlife
reality is real whether or not you feel like agreeing with it.
And bad for the cats (pesticides) and pregnant women (toxoplasmosis). Right?
But ya, they hunt for fun. As for how much success they meet, it depends.
toxoplasmosis is a particular syndrome. In pregnant women toxoplasma gondii it will completely destroy the fetus’s brain (no immune system yet).
in healthy people it does all sorts of weird things to your personality… some links to schizophrenia but the jury is out on that.
Sorry, I replied to the wrong one