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My city has a few of those, but specifically in places where the structure of the intersection has an island somehwre right in the middle of traffic, and people were being hit by cars frequently. Go pan handle somewhwre you're not likely to be run over.
But the disdain extends to the elderly and pregnant women when it comes to our bus stops. They don't have seats at all anymore. They even ripped out the seats that used to exist.
Again, fighting the symptoms and not the cause. Cause, god forbid, we have pedestrian friendly infrastructure.
Pedestrians getting hit by cars is not the fault of the pedestrian. It is the result of inconsiderate drivers not paying attention with their two ton death machines and infrastructure designed to cater to drivers at the expense of being hostile to pedestrians
We're not talking about pedestrians on planned intersections. We're talking about not encouraging people to run onto an active highway. It's rather hard to design a system for pedestrian safety and for drivers to avoid accidents when people break all the rules.
I feel like you lost track of the discussion
It was about pan handlers in an intersection. A highway makes no sense for pan handling because no one is going to stop on a highway to give money
In my city, there are large (8 lane) main arterial roads with fairly high speeds (80km/h) that have traffic light intersections and cross walks. The crosswalks work well with sidewalk islands, protective barriers, plenty of space, and provide lots of time for pedestrians to cross the rather large expanse. But when panhandlers set up on those sidewalk islands and then walk around traffic it can get very dangerous. I've see some close calls when people head back to their island bases after the cars have started. Unfortunately drugs play a role in this too.
That's what they get for actively contributing fresh meat to that sick society.