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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That shit was true long before Obamacare.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 15 points 2 days ago

Before Obamacare companies had the option to not provide healthcare at all, and more often their cutoffs when they did was 39 hours. ACA moving that to 30 was an attempt to get around employers hiring two people for part-time rather than 1 full-timer. And then they also made the norm of providing health insurance into a standard requirement.

Well-intentioned, reasonable compromise, modest reform-type stuff, but with raging Republican opposition to anything ever getting better and the inevitable min-maxing of loopholes, it only got us so far. And mail multiple key provisions has been repealed by the Republicans so...

[–] stray@pawb.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While admitting that my recollection is flawed as hell, I remember it being the case that you couldn't get a full 40 hours, but that you could easily get 30+ hours so long as you didn't hit 40 enough times to count.

I'm not trying to agree with OOP that the ACA ruined everything, but it is a truly bizarre and flawed alternative to universal healthcare.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For some reason people thought if they used the Republican's plan for healthcare then republicans would have no choice but to support it.

All that happened is they got a shitty healthcare plan and the Republicana had nowhere to go and nothing to offer as an alternative.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also it turns out Republicans can oppose anything they've previously supported if they want. There's no magical force that imposes consistency on them.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that’s universally true

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Fair, but I guess beyond that it's worth observing that the Republicans specifically have moved away from their previously declared beliefs quite fully. The ACA is the quintessential market-based solution. The Democrats have taken over the pro-market position, while the Republicans have adopted something that is somehow worse.