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Police say there have been multiple fatalities following a shooting near a Jewish gathering at Sydney's Bondi Beach. Follow live.

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[–] Deebster 20 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I'm assuming it's someone who thinks they're getting revenge for Israel's genocide in Gaza. Almost everyone I've met who would celebrate Hanukkah is no fan of Netanyahu's war crimes but I guess for some Jewish = Israeli.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Or a neo-Nazi, or some incel who has no coherent political views but a formless rage, and knows nothing about Jews except that killing them is very edgy and would eclipse the shame of being a virgin with a vast porn collection.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 2 points 3 days ago

It's so insane to me that it was a father son duo. I mean maybe it makes more sense in a way, but holy shit.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The part a lot of people don't want to admit is just how close these two ideologies have gotten in the past two years

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

past two years

I don't think that's true.

Fascists have been like this since D'Annunzio.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 5 days ago

Incels and neonazis?

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Assuming helps nobody. Wait for the motives to be revealed by the investigators.

There's already a bunch of anti-Muslim statements rising on the usual places (YT, FB) because the only shooter identified so far has an Arabic-origin name.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

the only shooter identified so far has an Arabic-origin name

So does the guy who tackled one of the shooters, apparently, but of course they won't be mentioning him, because he doesn't fit in their narrative...

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

Hero Bystander's family members landed to Sydney from Syria 6 months ago but no specific country of origin mentioned. So, say he is Syrian. His motive was to prevent more deaths. A humanitarian act as family described it. He also said that ‘God gave me strength. I believe I’m going to stop this person killing people’.

We can't generalize anything. On one side we see religious extremists shooting at people. On the other side (allegedly) same religion people acting out of the goodness of their heart. But no one can dismiss this being a religious attack.

[–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

i heard that on the news. where did you hear it not being mentioned?

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago

They being the ones posting the usual bullshit on social media which the comment I was replying to mentioned.

The Zionists are guilty in that case. They're the ones pushing a narrative to the contrary.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Maybe.

But you're right that some people think that Jews and Israel are almost the same. It's part of Israel's propaganda.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My closest Jewish friend has shared how members of his family was forcibly removed from where they lived in Palestine because it was designated as an Arab zone during the same period as the Nakba. He blames zionists for it. At least his family didn’t end up stateless as a result, but I still can’t imagine how terrible being forced out of your home for something out of your control would be.

[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I am curious how the Palestinian Jews generally viewed the eastern European zionists fucking up the region.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

He said his family was pissed as they felt the Zionist influx fucked up their community. Not sure how popular of a sentiment that was, though.

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They don’t celebrate Hanukkah in Israel?

[–] Deebster 1 points 5 days ago

"Everyone I've met" (I have been to Israel a few times over my lifetime, but I haven't talked to anyone from there recently)

[–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

usually antisemites hate everything jewish.

Old use. Now antisemites usually hate children being raped to near death by packs of trained rape-dogs then shot in the head in a bombed out crater that used to be a hospital.