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Meme or whatever, but fuckwits that keep cats outdoors (and cat hoarders) are the main reason why my charitable donations to animal groups focus on spay/neuter programs rather than shelters. I know the animals in shelters need help too, but reducing the inflow of animals into the shelters helps them as well.
And reduces hazards to wildlife from cats, whether they be outdoor pets, strays, abandoned, or feral.
And reduces demand for meat-based cat foods.
It's the most efficient way to help that I can think of.
my environmental science teacher spent an hour talking about what apex predators cats are and how terrible outdoor cats are….
they pretty much kill for fun, all day….
if you declaw your cat (which is evil) and put a bell on it, then the last thing the bird will hear is a bell ringing while being batted to death.
they just decimate the local wildlife.
declawing your cat is like cutting last segment of humans finger. please don't do that, it is a straight up torture, far worse than cutting ears, and should be illegal.
Yeah, it's pretty fucked up
Didn't seem like they were advocating for that, just using it as an example
it should be illegal, that’s just an example of what people say as an excuse for why it’s okay for their cat to be outside
Arm-wrestling meme: https://imgflip.com/i/aew8xw
they kill all sorts of furry creatures too, but yeah there are more bird people than mole people
Cars kill 1000000x more than cats. If you care about wildlife, that's where you'll put your dent.
I have 3 outdoor cats. The older 2 take out 1 mole, 1 mouse and 0.3 birds a week. Combined.
The younger is a terror tho. 2 birds, 2 moles, 2 mice, a week.
Rural
a: not even kinda true.
b: one thing being bad for wildlife doesn’t make another thing that’s bad for wildlife stop also being bad.
c: they take out way more than that, they just bring back a mole as a tip for you. Scientists have tracked and followed cats and they kill for fun, all day.
e: check out Toxoplasma Gondii, the cat-rat brain parasite that infects human brains too… the reason pregnant women aren’t supposed to change litter boxes…
i love cats and grew up with outdoor cats and i love seeing them enjoy it and go on little adventures. However, it’s terrible for your local wildlife. With farms and pesticides everywhere, humans’ yards have become a lot more important.
Actually it's true, about the death thing.
And your argument seems to be more "letting your cats out is bad". I disagree.
no, it’s letting your cats out is bad for wildlife
reality is real whether or not you feel like agreeing with it.
And bad for the cats (pesticides) and pregnant women (toxoplasmosis). Right?
But ya, they hunt for fun. As for how much success they meet, it depends.
toxoplasmosis is a particular syndrome. In pregnant women toxoplasma gondii it will completely destroy the fetus’s brain (no immune system yet).
in healthy people it does all sorts of weird things to your personality… some links to schizophrenia but the jury is out on that.
Sorry, I replied to the wrong one
Speaking of efficiency. The most efficient way to maintain our software developer population would be quad-amputated, in work-coffins, fed with a corpse-derived slurry.
Huh.
Dude. Its obviously in a rural setting. Those cats are all oitdoor cats. Its how you keep the mouse population down. These aren't sit in the house all day cats. Farm cats are working cats.
I mean thsoe cats seem to be feed cats but that's beside the point.
Barn cats are actually pretty important. rodents can be terrible, and spread disease due to the conditions they often live in. Cats help with snakes and certain bugs as well (larger bugs they can swat at. Usually just kill them and play with them, but I've seen cats eat them too)
But is still absolutely essential to spay/neuter barn cats, and provide them with safe places to get away from coyotes. Spay/neuter is to prevent them from making more cats, which can quickly get out of hand. For getting away from coyotes, raised areas they can quickly climb to are good. Yes coyotes can jump, but I've never seen a coyote climb. Their front legs just dont bend the right way to let them grab the tree
Curious why you responding to my comment specifically rather than the dozen or so other comments similarly condemning outdoor cats.
Is it because I chose to put my money where my mouth is?
It's probably just because yours is at the top lol
Yah, yours was the top comment haha.