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Better to learn later than never.
It is widely known and has been reported for the past 3 years that AI hallucinates and cannot be trusted, but not very accepted I guess due to all the lies by the tech bros that AI is PhD level or above.
Just waiting for that POP!
Of courtse it hallucinates. A significant portion of the time? Yes, especially with current events. With shit you could just look up on Wikipedia? Not really. It also makes debugging a piece of cake.
Absolutely not. I use Claude daily for development work (not by choice), and debugging is by far its weakest ability. I've frequently said that it's worse than useless at debugging and I still stand by that, even as AI coding tools have made marginal gains in other areas.
Seriously, don't use this shit for debugging.
Are we talking about the same thing? Debugging is trivially easy thanks to LLMs. I have a script that automates it. Just ctrl+a ctrl+c ctrl+v basically
I don't even know what workflow you'd be describing by copying everything into something else. Certainly doesn't seem like any debugging effort I have done...
I guess you might be copying your voice into a chat and asking it to identify inconsistencies in your code, but I would think you'd be using an ide that integrates that. In such a case I don't feel like an AI doing a code review is "debugging". It can catch some things in a code review capacity, but generally the stuff that rises to the level of "debug" I haven't seen LLMs be useful in that context...
i'm talking about feeding the terminal output back into itself. it's literally the only thing i do, and i coded a bacon number app with a database that i couldn't get hooked up for two days
The words you're saying don't make any sense.
Clearly not, because debugging isn't a practice that you can just automate away. Telling Claude to "fix all the bugs" before every commit isn't going to do shit, especially if you're prompting it to debug code that it wrote itself.
it's a simple command. you just don't know what it is. that's all
Are you generating your comments with AI? Cause that would mean at least it's good at ragebaiting.
It hallucinates 100% of the time. It just happens that varying fractions of its hallucinations match reality.
It doesn't think. It only regurgitates the output of a horrendously complicated statistical analysis of its training material. It is always hallucinating.
I propose renaming ”vibe coding” to ”hallucination driven development”
you have no idea that chatgpt is just an incredibly primitive version of the human brain, do you? it seriously is. we won't have computers approaching the power of your brain or mine until.....well, no one knows, could be centuries. but in time there will be humanoid robots who are indistinguishable between you and i
No it isn't. The fact you think it is tells me that your opinions on any topic can be safely disregarded.
The fact you think "AI hallucinates 100% of the time" wouldn't get you laughed out of a job interview makes me know I can't take anything you say seriously.
I guess it might, if you're a vibe coder.
I bet my white virgin ass that I can debug and fix issues quicker than AI. But I also have 15 years of experience using my own head instead of offloading that mental work to AI.
Edit: senior level complex issues.
They are great for certain tasks. Untangling a complicated mess of a function that you've never seen before and giving you a summary of what the fuck is happening? Pretty damn impressive!
Writing some boilerplate or script that has been written thousands of times in similar fashions and in a language/tech you don't need to fully understand? Just saved me from 1h of googling.
Designing something uncommon while following a shitty specification to the letter, and you have to anticipate which choices to make to avoid struggles down the line? Ahaha nope.
i see that you think AI can't possibly improved your work. That's incredibly self-centered of you. Maybe even narcissistic. But then again, people like you are a dime a dozen...so confident in your abilities that you think you can't possibly improve yourself. Well guess what, I use a claude BSD pipeline to debug 1000 times faster than you do. it's a simple algorithm. CS 101 shit
You forgot to add:
*In junior and prototype level codebases
If you really claim that AI can successfully debug and fix issues in complex enterprise level apps, I know you are talking out of your ass and are most likely a vibe coder setting yourself up for a massive failure.
Good luck.
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The way you talk, I'm 99% sure you're not even a junior. A self-taught cowboy, that never worked on an enterprise level production code, who thinks he knows shit.