QueerDefenseFront
LGBTQ+ rights are under attack across the world.
This a Community dedicated to the discussion of how to protect, advocate for, and restore LGBTQ rights!
With the rampant increase of Anti LGBTQ+ hate crimes, speech and laws internationally, the LGBTQ community globally no longer feels safe.
We refuse to stand by while injustice against our community reigns.
Here we will organize, and discuss ways to make our voices heard!
Link to QDL Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Queerdefensefront/s/s1JGAmJK9d
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Community Rules:
- No Hate Speech
No Hate Speech allowed whatsoever. This is a O tolerance policy. This goes for any form of hate and/or bigotry regarding race, religion, or LGBTQ+ identities.
While we will have discussions on political issues dealing with hate and bigotry AGAINST the LGBTQ+ community, please keep your comments respectful of ail parties.
Be better than how your enemies treat you.
- Respect the trans community
Respect the people who belong here. If you're confused what that means, here's a minor primer:
No asking to date trans people or otherwise meet up with them. No treating being transgender as a mental illness or as being lesser in any way. No arguing with trans people about their identity. No arguing with trans people about their vulnerabilities, including anything related to sports, laws, etc. This includes anything else that the mod team deems disrespectful.
- Stay on topic!
Posts should be related to the defense, advocacy, and restoration of LGBTQ+ rights.
This Community is for news regarding, as well as the discussion of, anti LGBTQ+ laws, hate crimes, and propaganda.
- Bunnies are above the law
This isn't a rule but it shows you're paying attention to the rules. good for you!
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No. Musk and other transphobes don't actually believe what they believe because of the reasons they state. They believe what they believe, and say whatever feels right in the moment to support their hate, and don't care in the slightest if it contradicts another of their beliefs somewhere else. The hate is the point. The words are just window dressing.
It sure makes them look like absolute idiots, though. It also discredits their arguments when their claims fail under the smallest bit of critical thinking. Musk's idiotic and ignorant statements like this shine like a giant beacon of how brain dead his mindset is. Anyone that might have been swayed, when examining his argument, can see how stupid he is with this statement, and carry that over to seeing the stupidity in his hate.
The thing is though, no one actually changes their opinion because Musk spouts contradictory bullshit. His fellow transphobes just see him pushing transphobia, and don't care what he's actually saying. For them as well, the point is the hate. The words are just as meaningless, whether it's their words or someone elses. The only thing that matters, is that it pushes hate.
For people that are already trans allies, his words don't change anything.
And for people who are on the fence, who don't know how to feel about trans folk and their rights, musks words won't change anything either. The thing that turns fences sitters in to supporters is seeing the human face of trans people. It's the experience of trans people shifting from a hypothetical talking point in to real people, who are impacted by the hate. And again, that has very little to do with the words people use.
It’s true, and you see it all the time. If you concede any point they just move the goalposts. The point is hate. They hate trans people, so no matter what they will hate them. If there was a magic pill that would make a trans person 100% indistinguishable from any other people they would claim that real women don’t take medicine or something insane.
I mean, they basically already do this with everything else regarding trans healthcare so of course they will.
It doesn’t matter that they look like idiots if they’re looking like idiots while running circles around their opposition
The hate stems from fear, fear stoked by people who stand to gain from the divisiveness that's created. Many even start to believe their own faulty rhetoric as it gives them a rush of power and control.
Yep. People can and obviously are swayed by Musks transphobia. But they're not swayed because he comes up with a singular definition they agree with. They're swayed because his pattern of exclusion is designed to stoke fear. The successive anti trans comments, the support from other bigots, and the fear narratives all tell people they should be nervous about trans folk. And then the messages keep coming, and the uncertainty changes to fear.
Which is to say, celebrating a "gotcha" in a transphobes wording, might feel good in the moment, but pointing out the contradiction doesn't make any meaningful difference to people who are already feeling that fear and anxiety.