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Just in case anyone actually intends to buy one, buy european: https://blahol.com/
Randomly recommending a 600% increased price bag is crazy.
Difference is the quality.
The listed item may break after 10 months or is not comfortable.
Meanwhipe this holds up for >5 years and feels very good.
You pay for actual wages, quality assurance and not being subject to cancerous dyes they use over there without preparing them.
I will never buy anything plastic on Amazon or AliExpress that will enter my body.
Thats the price of a good quality product produced in decent conditions by a small company in Europe. Maybe could be cheaper if it was facory produced, but not much of that going on anymore is there? Anything lower is either sweatshop, low quality material/work or not produced in Europe. I use this stuff and can highly recommend it. You can check my posting history if you think I go around promoting a random buisness.
Lmfao 170€ for a bag. Are you people rich? If Europe can't produce a good quality 50€ bag ethically, it doesn't deserve my money either. It's a fucking BAG
If it holds up longer, start by dividing it by each year you use it daily for.
Once break even, determine if it's still too expensive .
Buy cheap, buy twice.
Buy decent, buy once (for longer time).
No, no and no. Artificial tough fabrics and sewing methods are extremely affordable industrially in 2025. I will not pay 170€ for something that should cost, extremely generously, 50€.
May be.
Didnt know wages became affordable as well.
This aint the US where you don't pay for the social safety net :)
Also I'm not into sweatshop products if it can be avoided.
Fuck that. In my European country, 25% of young people endure unemployment and nobody can fucking afford housing, where are our safety nets in Spain? Our purchase power is worse than it was 25 years ago, and keeps worsening. Wages in Spain are extremely affordable, we get paid like utter shit, minimum wage is 1300€ a month.
Go and spend 170€ in a bag 150€ of which go to the capitalist owner of the company.
You do realize that those things are affordable due to labor exploitation, right?
Give me numerical data for that. I can buy fucking 10 cent microcontrollers and program them at home because 200 years of industrial development have made it that there's so little labor involved in their production, it's a matter of economy of scale. Manufacture loads of cheap, resistant fabrics such as viscosa, manufacture loads of cheap, long-lasting messenger bags. But no, it has to be 100 different small-production models because we need 100 different varieties of messenger bags instead of reliable, affordable, mass-produced Eco-friendly options
I mean, technically given the layout, that's a working cycle messenger bag.
Care to explain? I don't understand your comment, sorry
yeah I dropped a comma. that particular layout is less of an everyday bag and more of a working bike messenger bag. for that purpose it's pretty fairly priced- my messenger bag for work was in the $500 range. there's a pretty big distinction between a regular messenger bag and a bike messenger bag- one sits low and on the hip while bike mess bags are designed for documents and small parcels and they sit high and tight on the back to stay slim for lane splitting and traffic. of course, it's not just a working messenger bag, it's also good for cycle commuters and the likes, but they're less comfortable in that configuration.