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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I would much rather remember Patrice Lamumba, than a loser like kirk. But there is a drink called an Irish Car Bomb, so there's no accounting for taste.

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrice_Lumumba#Political_ideology "Lumumba did not espouse a comprehensive political or economic platform.[201] According to Patricia Goff, Lumumba was the first Congolese to articulate a narrative of the Congo that contradicted traditional Belgian views of colonisation, and he highlighted the suffering of the indigenous population under European rule. Goff writes that Lumumba was alone among his contemporaries in encompassing all Congolese people in his narrative (the others confined their discussions to their respective ethnicities or regions),[202] and he offered a basis for national identity that was predicated upon having survived colonial victimisation, as well as the people's innate dignity, humanity, strength, and unity.[203] Lumumba's ideal of humanism included the values of egalitarianism, social justice, liberty, and the recognition of fundamental rights. He viewed the state as a positive advocate for the public welfare and its intervention in Congolese society necessary to ensure equality, justice, and social harmony.[204]"

[–] FoxyFerengi@startrek.website 5 points 3 days ago

AFAIK it's been considered poor taste to order an Irish car bomb for a couple decades. I've heard it called an Irish slammer, though I'm sure there's other names for it

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

You can remember someone without honoring them and that's what happens with Lumumba. Naming a drink after him is cynical and making fun of his death. I see your point that Kirk isn't worth remembering. I would do it in the context of holding a mirror up.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

It's a bit of a catch22. On the one hand Patrice Lumumba should be remembered, and the drink does actually help with that. But on the other hand, it feels more like the kind of thing you'd do if you were celebrating the assassination than if you wanted to honor the assassination's victim.