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[–] Plurrbear@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (4 children)

But Clinton was impeached for a BJ, seriously?! America is so fucked!! Time to CLEAN HOUSE!!!

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Clinton was impeached for perjury when he was testifying as defendant in a sexual harassment inquiry. We'd be in a better position now if he'd seen some consequences for that.

[–] Plurrbear@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

But shouldn’t Trump be impeached for the same thing when he said that he didn’t know what was going on.. Yet he visited the island and was literally charmed up with Jeff either way both presidents are in the wrong, but only one will ever be impeached for what truly happened, in the fact that Trump what’s friends with Jeff and then pretended he wasn’t when there is actual photographic evidence of said friendship who has to say what’s worse (both are horrible), either way Trump was associated with a sex trafficker plus, we already know that Trump is a manipulative, liar, and will lie and try to lie his way out of anything, but the proof is there in photos. You can redact and distract people all you want, but photos don’t lie!

The main problem is the media being owned by billionaires. That’s the real problem in America.

[–] Quexotic 4 points 5 days ago

I would argue that political parties being owned by billionaires is a problem of a greater scope and severity.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

But shouldn’t Trump be impeached

Of course he should. And if we'd set a precedent back then by holding Bill Clinton accountable maybe it would be easier to do that nowadays. That's my entire point. Did you even read my post or did you just immediately kneejerk go into "what about" mode?

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Quit trying to undermine what Bill Clinton did. Just because it was heavily politicized doesn't mean it wasn't also an egregious offense.

There's a reason pretty much every organization in the world has written rules regarding the relationships between its members, especially when there are power imbalances. I can't think of a bigger possible power imbalance than the US President and an intern.

And it goes the other way too. What if Lewinsky had been an intelligence asset for a foreign nation? Or even if she was just a lobbyist for some special interest group?

The US was lucky that Lewinsky was a victim of sexual harassment and not a fucking spy. She was demonized so heavily in the aftermath she literally moved out of the country.

[–] Plurrbear@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

So yes, he lied but so did Trump (as we have learned hundreds, if not thousands of times he is a manipulating liar). He legit in his entire cabinet of crazy people are hands down not letting the files come out without being heavily redacted because almost all of them will be in trouble for what they did to under aged girls! Deflection deflection deflection, and the media won’t show it because they’re owned by the billionaires in the pockets of Trump.

Trump has lied numerous times about knowing about what was going on on the island yet he went there and there are pictures of him being charmed up with Jeff,so how is that better than Clinton lying about whatever he did, than hardcore proof evidence of Trump being affiliated with a sex trafficker?!?? Two wrongs don’t make a right, therefore, Trump should be impeached for that as well, but won’t because the Republicans will never let that pass so how is that justice?

Honestly, the entire Trump cabinet should be impeached and removed for a lot more than what Clinton did so seriously what the fuck is happening in America?!?! we are in a spiral of misinformation and no information due to the fact that the news outlets are owned by billionaires!

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

What if Lewinsky had been an intelligence asset for a foreign nation? Or even if she was just a lobbyist for some special interest group?

The US was lucky that Lewinsky was a victim of sexual harassment and not a fucking spy.

Lewinsky was never investigated as to her status as an intelligence asset, or if she was it was never made public. For me it is plausible, though probably not probable that she was a spy. She certainly could have been though, this was at the end of the Cold War and there was talk at the time that her family being from a Warsaw Pact country made it a possibility she was at least, leveragable - all just rumors but curious to think about in my opinion.

/tinfoil also she went on The Tom Green Show right after the whole thing blew up 😬

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

It's not undermining what Clinton did, dork. It's highlighting how far our government has fallen that it won't hold Trump and his admin to any sort of responsibility for much more egregious acts against the country as a whole. It's all dog and pony show now.

[–] johnyreeferseed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not even for the BJ, for lying about the BJ.

[–] Plurrbear@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Yet, this president has lied more times than I can even count first term and now this term. It’s honestly embarrassing how much they try to distract us from the release of the files and then release some heavily redacted because they probably are all in them and that just shows how messed up and corrupt our government is. These government officials are NOT in it for the people anymore. They’re in it for themselves and their pockets. It’s savage. We need to clean house of all of them!!!!

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Lying under oath was by far the biggest issue on that.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

impeachement was spearheaded none other than NEWT GINGRICH, who also is the brainchild to never work with the other side.

[–] Plurrbear@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Of course!!! 🙄 and with billionaires on both sides, nothing will ever come to justice. These people aren’t working for the people anymore and they’re working for themselves!! just like the billionaire owned media!