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Star Wars comes to mind immediately.
What's funny is I liked Rey as a character and the first movie was fine, but it quickly went downhill with the next two and I haven't watched any of them since.
But I've probably watched Rogue One about a dozen times so far and it's one of the best modern Star Wars movie we've had.
A crap movie is a crap movie. Just sucks to get tossed in the incel pile because incels hate a specific movie too.
I wonder if that's because the comic is about Star Wars...
No one has, since they don't exist.
“Somehow he lived!” (Paraphrased.) Rey was fine, Disney (or whomever) just tried to capitalize on rebooting the End of the Universe scenario instead of focusing on smaller projects like Rogue One, Mandalorian, and Andor, all of which (at least partially) were significantly better than other Star Wars projects.
They just can't let the Skywalkers go. Literally tens of thousands of years of historical framework to play around with and they laser focus on less than a century
A movie in the old republic featuring kreia would be awesome!
Give me band of brothers but it follows Republic or Sith Troopers. Hell set it during the great hyperspace war, show the true horror of the ancient sith. Or hell go full 40k in star wars and flesh out the Pius Dea.
Luke, Han and co should have been 20 mins in the first film to hand off the plot to the new generation of characters.
I think it was "somehow, he returned".
The funniest bit about that is, that you can clearly hear even the actors think it’s stupid, yet somehow those were still the best deliveries they got.
Rogue One may even beat out Empire for me. Sacrilege!
I support you, friend
You need to watch Andor if you haven't already.
They could've replaced Rey with a plank of wood in Rise of Skywalker and it wouldn't have changed much.
Yeah well if you ignore the internet reviews and marketing and take the movies for what they are, TFA was a solid reboot, checked all the boxes. Not exactly groundbreaking but a good return to form and a fun action adventure movie, which is all Star Wars needs to be really.
TLJ was unoriginal, boring, and the most misogynistic movie in Star Wars. But the marketing said it was about strong women so everyone got on their respective hills ready to die based solely on the marketing. No one was going to change their opinion (which is documented on the internet forever) after they actually saw the movie. So we're suppose to pretend that it's good leadership to act like an authoritarian in a Resistance movement (what are they resisting again?) Rey wasn't relegated to a support role (her only actions are distracting tie fighters and moving some rocks around) and Leia hiding in a bunker from her son is what a strong person would do. Let's all pretend that Rey thinking she should try to fix a rapey asshole because he looks good with his shirt off isn't a problematic thing to show to young girls as a positive role model. We all have to pretend the marketing was an accurate representation of the movie forever because we're idiots that can't actually look at what's happening on the movie screen.
RoS is janky, but is actually the most interesting Star Wars movies, mostly because of the challenges placed on it externally. It has some fun action adventure (though very derivative of Raiders of the Lost Ark in the first half). It has interesting themes about relationship with the past, the difference between ancestry and family, the emotional aspects of fascism, and of course the grieving process. Also gives a fairly satisfying ending for Princess Leia, though you have it a lot of leeway on that part (given the circumstances) if you're not an asshole. But the internet is obsessed with "somehow Palpatine returned" memes (which is all about how Poe is supposed to know or care about the specifics of his return, which is actually explained to us the audience) so the narrative is that it's the worst Star Wars movie ever!
Rogue One is studio directed garbage (sorry!) I won't go into details on that one, don't want to ruin it for you.
Outside of the Original Trilogy, the best two Star Wars movies were the ones JJ Abrams made. Other than those two (and Solo) everyone else failed to meet the bar of being fun action adventure. Everything else is trying to pretentious garbage, and I'm sorry but I'm not taking a movie that seriously when it has toys I played with as a kid on the screen. TFA, RoS, and Solo remembered to have some fun, but that's something miserable terminally online people that make youtube videos can't comprehend.
Disney should really just bring back JJ Abrams to make another fun action adventure movie with Rey, Finn, and Poe. People that like Star Wars movies would get another fun Star Wars movie. Youtube content farms would pump out endless videos about how horrible JJ Abrams is. Miserable people would have another reason to go on the internet and complain. Everyone would get what they really want.
Rise of Skywalker's narrative isn't bad because Poe said "somehow Palpatine returned", but because that movie's narrative is "somehow Palpatine returned", and Poe literally saying it like that embodies the entire problem perfectly.
Maybe watch the actual movie instead of just consuming clips from online reviewers? It is actually explained. Twice.
Both in the scene before Poe said the line, and immediately after in the same scene Poe says the line. Sure the editting is janky in that movie (and they move past it quickly because Poe doesn't care about how Palpatine returned) so you may have missed it.
If you were criticizing the movie for janky editing making it difficult to understand what's going on, then I'd agree. But continuing with saying things to conform to a meme which is you could prove is obviously false if you actually watch the movie is a bit silly at this point.
Being explained doesn't make it a good idea or well explained. It was an excuse.
For the record, I watched the movie here in Copenhagen in Imperial, at the time the largest cinema in Denmark, on its premier. Walking out of the cinema I noticed most of the people didn't seem all too... Cheerful.
I watched it twice afterwards, the following years, with a mix of other people. The Rise of Skywalker has only gotten worse in subsequent viewings.
The movie isn't difficult to understand. Maybe for you, but that says a lot more about just... you. It's simply an awful execution of a bunch of really bad ideas.