Then after 12 years of school you still need a degree for most job listings. That's optional but it's free so you're seen as uneducated if you don't get a degree.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

First 9 years of school is absolutely mandatory where I come from

Attendance is mandatory. Failure is always an option.

Then after 12 years of school you still need a degree for most job listings.

You can find jobs (even good paying jobs) that don't require a degree, but they tend to be labor intensive, health hazardous, and with awful working hours. There's a job I'm always seeing open in Houston for non-college recruits that involves hosing out shipping containers at the port. The job starts around 6pm and you're in a giant rubber hasmat suit dealing with tanker ships full of toxic chemicals. The bosses want you to work 12 hour shifts, you're in close with heavy machinery on a dock, and you're surrounded by carcinogens that you have to meticulously shield and clean yourself of and hope your PPE is keeping you safe on the clock.

$80k+/year. The bigger companies looking for people with experience will pay north of $150k.

You can also work out on a rig for $150k+. You can drive trucks overseas (Americans working in Iraq could earn $200k+/year back during the occupation). If you do have military experience, there's a ton of money working as a "consultant" in Private Defense. No college necessary. But... you know... there's trade offs.