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[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

"Make people study"? You're mistaken. No one is making anyone study.

Charge people to study? You bet your ass they'll take as many people as are willing to pay their overpriced fees. Finding a job after? Getting decent pay? That's a you problem as far as they're concerned.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Huh? First 9 years of school is absolutely mandatory where I come from, now 12 I think soon.

Then after 12 years of school you still need a degree for most job listings. That's optional but it's free so you're seen as uneducated if you don't get a degree.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

First 9 years of school is absolutely mandatory where I come from

Attendance is mandatory. Failure is always an option.

Then after 12 years of school you still need a degree for most job listings.

You can find jobs (even good paying jobs) that don't require a degree, but they tend to be labor intensive, health hazardous, and with awful working hours. There's a job I'm always seeing open in Houston for non-college recruits that involves hosing out shipping containers at the port. The job starts around 6pm and you're in a giant rubber hasmat suit dealing with tanker ships full of toxic chemicals. The bosses want you to work 12 hour shifts, you're in close with heavy machinery on a dock, and you're surrounded by carcinogens that you have to meticulously shield and clean yourself of and hope your PPE is keeping you safe on the clock.

$80k+/year. The bigger companies looking for people with experience will pay north of $150k.

You can also work out on a rig for $150k+. You can drive trucks overseas (Americans working in Iraq could earn $200k+/year back during the occupation). If you do have military experience, there's a ton of money working as a "consultant" in Private Defense. No college necessary. But... you know... there's trade offs.