The hive exist, or desire to please the survivors. However they want. Koumba has used this more than anyone else to his own advantage to live the life of a decadent, hedonistic and shallow playboy - roleplaying as James Bond and surrounding himself and having sex with women. Now, to me - this is very much - at the minimum - taking advantage of them. The women he's having sexual relations with are not who they were, and it is unlikely - even if the hive came to him and suggested it (as I suspect they did) - that the women before the joining would be remotely interested in doing this. They are not them. Who they were has been lobotomised, malformed and disappeared into the hive - segmented up into billions of bodies.

I've seen some people (not here, but elsewhere) suggest that this behaviour is okay because the hive is consenting. The women he's picking show enthusiastic and active consent. This to me is disgraceful, not just in the context of that - but also what could be the case if Koumba had different, darker interests.

Now the show will not address this (and rightfully so) - but it still seems true to me regardless of that. If Koumba was a pedophile, they would provide him with children he requested - and the children would provide active consent. Just like the women he picks now, they wouldn't be who they were. There is no concept of childhood or child innocence anymore. The hive literally can't say no unless it contradicts their survival or asks them to hurt others.

So to anyone who thinks the hive is a good thing (and some people actually do), or that Koumba is doing no wrong with what he's doing. This should be a point to consider.

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[–] Dalacos@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Also highlights that the hive could simply be a weapon used as an opening salvo. A first strike, by an alien species.

They send a repeating code to a planet that converts virtually the entire population into extreme pacifism. And it makes them utterly complaint?

Could be they were worried humanity would become a threat to them eventually so figured out a way to eliminate the threat, and/or they've cleared a wide open path to taking over Earth at their time of choosing.

One way or another, as a hive, Humanity isn't a problem like it would be with individuality.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They send a repeating code to a planet that converts virtually the entire population into extreme pacifism. And it makes them utterly complaint?

why not go the much more simple route and kill them all with a deadly virus?

[–] Dalacos@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lots of imaginative reasons:

Firstly a realistic one, 100% mortality in a virus designed to kill is actually really difficult. Whereas a spreader with a near 0 mortality has the chance to actually spread. (The game Plague INC. does this well.)
The population is (relatively) intact, and they could have "uses" for said population after the fact. (Slaves, food, experiments, etc etc etc.)
The aliens that spread it could themselves be hive, and they themselves could have been targeted by yet another species, and spreading it as part of their newfound need to procreate as a hive. It may not have originated where the signal was sent from.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The aliens that spread it could themselves be hive, and they themselves could have been targeted by yet another species, and spreading it as part of their newfound need to procreate as a hive. It may not have originated where the signal was sent from.

yes i think that is the most likely scenario, but that doesn't necessarily need to be an "opening salvo". proliferation itself may be the only goal.

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