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"a family of four needs $136,500 a year"
I could see that, more likely in more expensive areas. You aren't getting anywhere in New York or San Francisco on $140K.
A month?
plenty of people live in these cities on less than 140K and are doing fine.
I live in Boston and I do great and a few years ago I was only making 70K.
I'm not sure what are the living standards in Boston or even if those exist, but good for you.
Boston scares and mystifies me and I know nothing of your bizarre customs.
it's a city with a lot of money. but nobody shows it off the way they do in nyc/la. it's very 'modest'.
people with 50million in the bank drive a 30K prius and wear eddie bauer and agonizing over their property tax going up $500 as if it will bankrupt them.
you can still live in those areas with that income lol, unless you buying multimillionaire penthouses.
The poverty line is for the nation overall. Using some of the highest cost of living areas to set it doesn't make sense. Why would you say a family making considerably more than most of their peers is poor because they would struggle to afford living somewhere else entirely?
It should be localized. it cuts both ways. Why would we say a family struggling to make ends meet is not really poor because they could live comfortably on that salary in a different region?
I mean, we're poor but we make less than half that just outside San Francisco. Honestly we're doing okay. We don't get any of the luxuries my parents had at our age, but we have smartphones so we can never get away from anything!
How much is your rent, if it's not too much to ask?
we live with family, maintain the property and shit. that's our rent. given our locale it comes out to about 15k/yr net we're saving.
probably should have put that in your original comment tbh. You implied one can make it on ~$70k near SF as if your bills were 1:1
i'm disabled. my medical care costs more than rent would. should i have included that too?
Yes. That seems pretty relevant to your financial story.
well, if you're comparing your income to the average, then yes, anything that substantially puts you out of the average would be pertinent for a comparison