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Electron is the only cross platform gui toolkit...
If you ignore QT, GTK and everything else.
I'm so glad that Microsoft makes an awesome cross platfor--- wait, no, but they contribute code to--- hmmm ... Hey, what does Microsoft do to make apps more portable again?
The real reasons often are:
Also a lot of Windows-only apps are Electron apps, only because the manufacturer wants to go "fuck you", even putting protections into the code just in case you wanted to run it on Linux.
EDIT: Forgot the "live embeds" reason.
Another reason is when developing the Web version first. Draw.io is a good example, where we get a bonus desktop(electron) version "for free" though the product was developed as a web app.
Also works on mobile easier, just change some CSS
one of the funniest (and sadly accurate) things i've heard said about linux backwards-compatibility is that its most stable API is Win32. you can run really old windows software on wine because they support stuff even windows doesn't anymore.
of course this is because the expectation is that you can just recompile old software to work on new systems, which is not really a thing on window.s
It's so portable! With maximal efforts we support both windows 7, windows 8.1 (but not 8.0), windiws 10 and soon Windows 11 !!!
/s
Flatpak
AppImage
Snap
Hell, let's not forget
Python Perl
Java
POSIX
The first 3 are Linux only. It's irrelevant.
You can even do inefficient UIs in Python using tkinter, which is part of the standard library in python.
Python tkinter interfaces might be inefficient, slow and require labyrinthine code to set-up and use, but they make up for it by being breathtakingly ugly.
And now imagine yourself creating an UI in tkinter without an editor. Because that's what I did. It was absolutely horrible.
Probably faster than me even deciding the bg color tho
I didnt care how it looked, because I only wanted for it to be finished fast.
For efficiency, just use the cli. The user doesn't want it? Then I don't want the user.
I do not want the user to ever be expected to edit the database by hand. If they make a mistake by doing so, they can break the entire system. That's why I wrote a GUI which gets the job done.
Well, every high-level, abstracted action done in a GUI can just be mapped onto subcommands of a CLI
It could, but since the GUI was not very complicated it was not worth the effort caused by teaching the people who would have used the GUI how to do it in the CLI. They also have a lit of other work to do, so if I would have expected them to use the CLI, they would have probably not done the stuff I want from them at all.
Ugh, and they're just weird. I can handle ugly but ktinker popups go across virtual desktops and over other windows for some ungodly reason, and never seem to dismiss themselves properly
.net
.net cli apps are cross platform and can be portable :p
Gui in .net isnt fully cross platform ( maui is everything except linux ) but frameworks like avalonia ( .net ) and imgui fix all that :')
Thanks for reminding me why Maui doesn't support Linux. I saw Maui mentioned in an earlier comment and was baffled why KDE would make something not working that doesn't work in Linux. It's because Microsoft stole the Maui name from KDE: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Microsoft-KDE-MAUI
LOL, didnt know maui naming was taken before. Hilarious
@DacoTaco @MoogleMaestro there is a port of mono winforms implementation to modern dotnet and it's really works:
https://github.com/DanielVanNoord/System.Windows.Forms
Winforms of all things haha. Eeuw xD
But thats flipping awesome and i love it! I know xamarin was wpf being cross platform with mono, but thats a dead horse thanks to microsoft haha
@DacoTaco Yes, it's Microsoft decided to kill classic win32 widgets and any XAML support in Mono, forcing new WinRT platform and not providing any GUI support in netcore. It's sad that nobody made some crossplatform WPF implementation for modern dotnet, Maui is not incompatible with existing source code, IIRC
That's basically Avalonia UI.
I believe Uno Platform is similar, but less of a WPF variant, and closer to Xamarin or MAUI in the style of Xaml that they use.
@hdsrob
>Thatβs basically Avalonia UI.
no, avalonia cannot help you run existing applications. Also. Avalonia is a crap, taking minutes to parse xml crap on poor hardware
Yes, there are many implementaion of WPF-like UI, but no implementation of existing Windows UI.
mono's winforms allows you run existing winforms apps without single line change or even without recompiling (just replace related System.Windows.* assembies)
Avalon is actually xaml and cross platform. Personally id rather have a razor format of gui code, but xaml is a good second. Its basically what maui was suppose to be
Does not MAUI compile to Linux, just that you need to compile on Windows?
Nope. The ui framework doesnt support linux at all. None of its cross platform claases and enums have linux. Its stupid because .net and aspcore just work on linux...
https://github.com/dotnet/maui
Everything but Linux, that's funny.
I look at MAUI a year or so ago and IIRC, "official" Linux support was made by the community.
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