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[–] Tja@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Europeans who are racist (especially from the east, or countries which didn't have colonies) are racist in the sense of staring at black people and trying to touch their hair.

Americans who are racist are racist in the sense they want to disenfranchise black votes, gerrymandered the hell of their districts and maybe enslave them in a federal prison for a minor drug offense. Because lynching is frowned upon these days.

Both exist, but they are not the same.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Europeans will also be like British people treating Polish people like shit, or various flavours of white people from adjacent communities deciding the other white person needs to be struck from the earth.

Europeans can absolutely be violently racist. I mean, who do you think sold all those slaves to the US?

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah exactly, we don't need someone to have a different skin colour to be racist, that's a simple man's racism. us europeans only do the finest of racisms - normal people with normal white skin (my village) vs the weird people with a similar skin but their accents are kinda weird and scary (all the other villages, and especially that one village over there)

(huge /j in case that wasn't obvious)

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

And don't ever mention the Romani, hoo boy.

[–] Tja@programming.dev -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Polish people are not a race...

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Define “race” and then tell me that an anglo person is the same as an eastern European person.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This guy is Polish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Olisadebe, I can define race however you want, Polish is not a race.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I said Polish because they are the group of easter Europeans that are most readily gone after in Britain. British is also not a race, by the way.

Ya stupid.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago

So... It's not racist, you say?

[–] REDACTED 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you not understand the difference between a race and ethnicity or nationality?

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The first sentence of wikipedia: “Race is a categorization of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into groups generally viewed as distinct within a given society.”

Also you not understanding that there are physical differences, if more subtle, between Eastern Europeans and those descended from Celts and the like is a you problem.

[–] REDACTED 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why did you quote Wikipedia for a word definition? I don't care what some randoms write in Wikipedia, we have established definitions agreed upon by experts and governments. Please refer to a better source like Oxford dictionary and learn the actual meaning of racism

Also, I'm from East, a Slav, who constantly travels to Scandinavia (Nordic countries)

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

No people are races. Jesus cantankering Christ. Race isn't real, it's pseudoscience.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're very blatantly underestimating the extent of European racism just because it shows itself less towards black people specifically.

[–] Tja@programming.dev -5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It shows itself versus everyone specifically. There is no group of people persecuted based on their race by politicians, law enforcement, media and half the population like back people are in the US. Or brown Muslims in the US. Or transgender people in the US. Maybe in Poland, this last one, but i don't think so.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In Europe roma people are discriminated against in a worse way

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Any specific examples of laws or initiatives or just the hurt durr Roma poor that was inherited from reddit?

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are no laws, but for example in Hungary romas are segregated in countryside schools

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, that's kind of my point. If the worst thing is what some villages in the most hostile country are doing, shows that there is no systemic/institutional racism to the extent of the US.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh wait Romania is worse

Also look at North Macedonia

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago

I looked at it. It's north of Greece.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's just strictly wrong. Never ask a European about the romani

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's just strictly wrong, a a dead horse inherited from reddit, probably even older.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a joke on reddit because every time they say it a European comes out of the wood works to prove the joke true.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

And you extrapolate that to an entire continent. Good job.