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[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It’s difficult to create a portmanteau of “Missouri” and “Stasi”, but I’m trying.

STOP CALLING THEM THE STASI THE STASI HUNTED FASCISTS THESE ARE FASCISTS THEY’RE LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE

Reminder: East Germany had very progressive laws on LGBT rights, with homosexuality being functionally legal since ‘57 and fully legal since ‘68. I believe state healthcare covered gender affirming care as well. Edit: Confirmed it did. Trans people in East Germany had state covered health care and could get married and adopt children. Trans rights in modern day Germany are less progressive than in the DDR

Like, I don’t know how to get it through these people’s heads that the whole point of the Stasi was to make sure people like this never took power again. You can have your criticisms of the effectiveness or the methods I guess (I don’t. This country was Nazi Germany just a few years before.) but it’s not up for debate, their goal was to stop fascists.

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

STOP CALLING THEM THE STASI THE STASI HUNTED FASCISTS THESE ARE FASCISTS THEY’RE LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE

It goes so much further. The faceturn the GDR took in terms of policy on queer people was literally a recommendation from the Stasi.

In 1985 the Stasi finally produced a new set of guidelines on how to prevent what it termed “the political misuse of homosexuals.” Some of its recommendations were unsurprising, such as ramping up surveillance of gay activist leaders. But its final recommendation was entirely novel. It insisted that the government find “resolution[s] to homosexuals’ humanitarian problems.” That is, the Stasi decided to actually address activists’ demands. Their rationale for doing so was actually rather simple. If the government tackled gay men and lesbians’ concerns, then all those church-affiliated activist groups would have no reason to exist. No complaints to be made, Stasi officials reasoned, meant nothing to organize about.

Thus began a series of genuinely radical changes in East German society. The state-censored newspapers, which for decades had hardly ever mentioned homosexuality, suddenly started printing dozens of stories about gay men and lesbians. The government also freed periodicals to accept personal advertisements from gay men and lesbians looking for partners. The state tasked Berlin psychology professor Reiner Werner with writing a book titled Homosexuality: A Call to Knowledge and Tolerance, which appeared in 1987. Its initial run of 50,000 copies sold out in a matter of weeks. (It would also approve a gay film, Coming Out, that premiered on November 9, 1989, the night the Berlin Wall fell.) In addition, the state began granting official recognition to gay groups, such as the Sunday Club, a secular activist collective run by Sillge that had been meeting in East Berlin since the early 1980s. And it authorized East Germany’s first gay discos, such as Die Busche, a club that still exists today. The government even allowed gay chapters within the Free German Youth (FDJ), the state’s official youth scouting organization, and mandated that all FDJ members attend educational sessions dealing with homosexuality. All of a sudden, East German youth were required to attend meetings of gay groups such as the Sunday Club. Remembering this moment, Rausch told me, “The joke was that suddenly everyone was standing in line to get into the Sunday Club,” only a couple years after it had been a target of state repression. In 1987 the East German Supreme Court struck down the law that set a higher age of consent for gay men and lesbians. The following year, the military allowed gay soldiers, reversing a policy the government had instituted in the 1950s.

https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/gay-liberation-behind-iron-curtain/

Imagine a capitalist government doing anything remotely like this

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wow.

Wild what having materialism as a core ideological principle does for even your state intelligence agencies

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

faceturn, a heelturn is when you change to a villain

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

oh damn, didn't know that. my bad. thought it just meant like spinning 180 on your heel or something :blob-no-thoughts: