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[โ€“] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 73 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

The companies below have proven to be reputable and worth supporting.

Spotify

Pays artists $0.0003 per play

Shows ICE ads

Says something about see deep dive for disclaimer, but I donโ€™t see a link in the post body. But interested to see whatโ€™s on there.

Edit: found the link

Warning

They pay significantly less royalties, promote AI music, and platform podcasters who spread misinformation - context: https://t.ly/spotify-history. They do offer a superior service, but some people choose not to support them for these reasons.

Yeah so, that doesnโ€™t align with โ€œreputableโ€ and โ€œworth supportingโ€.

[โ€“] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 14 points 6 days ago

Apple Music is actually better than Spotify, which deserves to sit on the left too along with the American options (no, I wouldn't move Apple Music to the right)

[โ€“] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I've been looking to get off Spotify for a while now. Was shocked to see it recommended. It's a shame tidal removed their "connect" feature, it would have made it so easy

[โ€“] unsettlinglymoist@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I just checked and the Connect feature in Tidal appears to still be there. I don't use it though so can't say for sure.

I switched from Spotify to Tidal and I've been really happy with it, but it's of course American. Deezer and Qobuz aren't worthwhile Spotify alternatives.

[โ€“] CertifiedBlackGuy@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Unless someone ruins tidal by commenting below, I love tidal.

They pay their artists more

[โ€“] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Tidal is great, and their "share with anyone" feature is just flat out 12/10, but I recently moved to Qobuz (French) because they pay the artists around 4 times more than Tidal does. And they're European.

[โ€“] njordomir@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I appreciate the share with anyone feature as well. I have a few friendships that are largely based on testing cool songs back and forth. This way the only inconvenience is me getting inbound Spotify links.

[โ€“] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Artist pay is actually a big factor in comparing the Music Streaming options, with high royalties being a special shout-out. https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/category/music-streaming/

[โ€“] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You aren't wrong. I went back and forth on whether to include them. The reality is that everyone knows Spotify and far better to educate people on why NOT to support them (hence being red and with a disclaimer).

Link for ease of reference for others. https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/software/D5JUoM1dZysf7JJgTAWXy/

[โ€“] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh, how I WISH Qobuz gets the same excellent feature as Tidal has - when you share a link to an artist/album/track from Tidal, and someone else clicks it, two things can happen:

  1. If they have Tidal, it will just open the artist/album/track in the app.
  2. If they don't have Tidal, it will open a Tidal-hosted page with links to the shared content on YouTube, Apple Music, Spotify, and a couple of other streaming services.

It just magically solves all the issues with people not wanting to switch because they like sharing their music.

[โ€“] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I also found Tidal had the edge in user experience. I'm wondering how Deezer competes, as that is the next one for me to try.

[โ€“] unsettlinglymoist@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I tried Deezer and Qobuz before choosing Tidal. Deezer music recommendations were barely adequate, but the real dealbreaker for me was their piss-poor Android app. The app seems like it was designed more than a decade ago and never updated, and the in-app navigation is frustratingly unintuitive.

[โ€“] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And your thoughts on Qobuz?

[โ€“] unsettlinglymoist@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I really liked everything about Qobuz except for the recommendations. I swear there's no algorithm used, it's completely random. I'd be listening to deep house and it would give me crazy suggestions like Frank Sinatra and aboriginal didgeridoo music, nothing related to house. This was back in March. I'd give Qobuz another try if they did a ton of work on their recommendations.

[โ€“] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

People increasingly want their voices heard and are taking action by choosing the companies they support.

These can be due to privacy concerns, environmental reasons, boycotting US companies, or other causes.

Doesnโ€™t the premise imply that Spotify should be in the left column instead then?

The service being โ€œsuperiorโ€ or convenient is counter to the argument.

[โ€“] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Personally, I would have them on the left column, but there is a general divide in the EU community on whether they should still be encouraged as a "lesser of two evils". As a compromise, I have left them in with a huge disclaimer. https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/software/D5JUoM1dZysf7JJgTAWXy/

[โ€“] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Gotcha. Thanks for explaining.