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As a software dev I wonder how does this even happen?
It's incredible how incompetent Microsoft is.
The bigger weight is anything that MS can sell for ad revenue.
They just use the profit amount as the weight and sort descending
I genuinely think you might be right.
but in this example clearly Wikipedia and probably IMDB are not paying them right? Or is it their attempt to disguise selling out by always preferring the buyable option even when it's at 0$?
IMDB might be, they're covered in trackers and ads. MS is a donor to Wikipedia (via Microsoft Matching Gifts Program) so they're getting what they paid for.
but IMDB is owned by direct Microsoft competitor - Amazon.
They're not really competitors across both enterprises. If they were then you'd need some conspiracy theory-level mental gymnastics for things like:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/defender-for-cloud/quickstart-onboard-aws?tabs=Defender-for-Containers
https://aws.amazon.com/windows/products/
https://about.ads.microsoft.com/en/blog/post/october-2025/unlocking-more-opportunities-for-partners-and-customers-through-collaboration-with-amazon
And finally
https://advertising.amazon.com/library/news/microsoft-amazon-dsp-partnership
This isn't Coke vs. Pepsi for computer boops. This is about ad revenue! They can partner up to cut Google out of the mix!
So they ruin their own product for what? For traffic to their billionaire buddy?
....are you serious? I know this is Linux Memes, but have you ever used Windows 11? MS has been ruining their own products for years. 1/3 of their janky code is LLMs constantly causing problems.
Even without any nefarious motives, they just do dumb stuff like that. I have Clone Hero installed. Whenever I press Super/Windows and I start typing 'clon', the FIRST thing that comes up is 'Control Panel', Clone Hero being the second guess.
So whenever I want to quickly start the game, I type 'clon', press enter, then get annoyed by the lack of Clone Hero and an unwelcome Control Panel window.
Outside the quite small bubble of nerds that is Lemmy and software developers/admins in general a random person is more likely to want the movie than the terminal app.
In my experience people don't know about / use search in the start menu at all. They mostly ask someone on teams if they can email them the file they need and then star that email. If a program is not pinned to the startbar then it might as well not exist. The workforce today is not computer-literate.
True. Most people nowadays would panic if they accidentally opened a terminal. It's a scary thing that hackers use on tv.
Highly doubt that
Is Terminal installed by default? I feel like I had to go out and get it manually. It's a single application with a UI to PowerShell, Windows Command Prompt, WSL, and any other terminals you might have. Maybe Windows 11 has it by default? But I feel like if someone has gone out of their way to install the application, Windows should definitely not be showing a web search result over it.
No clue tbh, I've been mainly using Linux for about 17 years now
I have never seen a person who uses Windows search instead of a browser to search the web, and I doubt anyone actually does. Even the people you mentioned.
As a guy who runs the Windows environment at work and doesn't see any of that shit at all - neither at work, nor on my extended family's devices - I also wonder, how does this even happen?
The Person deciding only uses web services, so why should those pesky systems apps be showed first?
My point was that the only time I ever see anything like this happen, is when people complain about it online.
I've managed around 10-20k Windows devices since Windows 10 came out. I've never seen a web search take priority over apps search. I'm honestly baffled as to where people are getting these screenshots from.
I tried to disable web search entirely and it still prioritizes it over shit on my actual computer. Its infuriating and I will be moving to Linux when I get the time to get off 10.
Turn it off in settings. Open Search, click the three dots menu, "Search settings" and turn off "Let search apps show results".
If you did and they still show up, your OS is busted and you should reinstall. Pro tip: don't use any "debloaters", they cause all kinds of headaches.
EDIT: if this is infuriating to the point you want to switch, skip Linux and go to Mac. Source: Linux user for over a year.
no, mac sucks:
infinitely less customizable, worse game support, the command key works in a very cursed way, the os is spyware, screenshot tool sucks, the "Dock" (app bar) takes 300 to 1200 mb ram and idk why, apple silicon gpu sucks, overpriced hardware, apple account, finder (the files app) is so bad that i often had to use terminal to do what i want (finder has no way to get the filepath, and no way to create a file)
only advantage of mac is its stability
and if you decide to install linux on a mac, you could have just bought a normal computer for the same price and the specs would be better, also displayport isn't supported (yet) so you're locked to a single display on most macbooks, and also it has the ARM cpu architecture so less software supports it
It sucks the same as Windows or Linux, just in different ways. We're used to the way Linux sucks, I'm used to the Windows sucks, we're both not used to the way Mac sucks, apparently.
Which is exactly why I recommend it to someone who's unreasonable angry at Windows. They'll have something new to learn, but something that is relatively stable (not as given as it used to be with MacOS 26).
Linux is weird. Linux is finicky. Linux breaks because you looked at it wrong, or because there was a full Moon while you were eating PB&J. If someone is infuriated by something they can literally turn off in settings, they'll be completely drowned in anguish if they switch to Linux.
Haha, sorry, just realised that I read the comment completely wrong somehow
But to your comment, i have experienced that windows is trying to sort personalised, so order changes based on what you frequently use
I recognised that because i need to help my coworkers often and while the amount of letters needed to show me the app I need varies a lot
Ahh, maybe that's why! Interesting! Also interesting how people end up in that situation and then complain about it online...
We all know how reliable AI is π (personalised sorting is AI as well)
Personalised sorting is very much not AI. Unless you're suggesting we've had AI since the early 90s?
Yes, we have
Only LLM that work βgood enoughβ are βnewβ
AI exists since about 1950
It doesn't exist "since about 1950", mate. It's actually hilarious just thinking about the sheer volume of transistors they'd need to do the basic AI operations back then. :D
The concept exists for a long while, sure, but by 2010 we've only had "deep learning" as the first stepping stone towards "something like" AI.
It most definitely wasn't possible on the home PC hardware, and it would be absolutely ridiculous to have an "AI" doing this sort of thing, when it can be achieved for a marginal fraction of the resources with a simple weighing and sorting algorithm...
It is all about definition of AI, it seems to me, that you only consider token transfmators which produce text and images as AI, while I consider AI as an umbrella term including machine lets which exist since 1950, mate
AI is very specifically defined as "Artificial Intelligence". A quite complex calculator (devices possible in the 50s) is not an AI.
To be fair, the current tech we call "AI" is not really AI either. We're a couple of decades away from that still.
Yea, and what exactly is βintelligenceβ
The ability to reason and extrapolate. Something that computers very much did not have until very recently.
Being able to calculate (even if it's logical gates) is not intelligence.
I saw it all the time. It drove me nuts. I'm not sure how you literally never see it, because my clean and fresh installs of windows always worked this way until I did a RegEdit update to kill the websearch in it.
Maybe you have issues with your OS because you keep doing things the wrong way?
Why are you disabling this in the Registry instead of turning it off through settings?
The last few times I even had to disable it, there was no setting for it. RegEdit was the way to disable the search-in-start-menu stuff.
But regardless, I'm still talking about seeing this issue on a fresh install. That's definitely not something that happens because I fiddle with settings.
You could always disable it. Just not in the OS settings - you had to open the Search window, go to the cog menu and open settings there.
In that case either I'm the luckiest bastard on the planet (again: 10-20k users all around the world since Windows 10 dropped and nobody has ever mentioned that problem), or maybe it's a regional thing that only happens in the US, or something. But then why didn't my US users complain?
it happens by installing windows 11 home or probwithout running a decrapification script or applying gpos to disable it
None of the Win11 Home, nor Pro instances I've seen (and I've seen a lot) had that issue.
I did notice, however, that people complaining about were going very quiet very fast when asked if they used a "debloater" or some such...
Theyve been rolling out intellisense for the terminal in Vscode, it's completely breaking tab complete for me.
does VSCodium (libre demicrosofted vscode fork) also have this? if not you could switch
or use a different editor (i use neovim btw)