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[–] Devial@discuss.online 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I've always said that the fines for moving traffic violations need to be scaled to the weight of the vehicle.

It's insane that going 20 over the limit on a 250kg moped gets you the exact same fine as doing it in a 4 ton F-450.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The more insane part is that Bezos and that mfer working McDonald's gets the same fine. It might as well be jail time for one, and a verbal warning for the other.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Except in Finland like with that Nokia executive

So “cute” we kept our little static fines as if three or four figures mean something to everyone

[–] Devial@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago

I mean they're not mutally exclusive. Fines could, and should scale with both.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is actually a great idea. IV never considered this. Oh man, EVs would get cooked on fines

[–] Devial@discuss.online 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, it is a downside that this may discourage EV adoption, but tbh. if you chose your car based on the fines you'd get when speeding is...questionable, to say the least.

"the consequences of doing an illegal and dangerous thing with my product" should, in my opinion, not be a choice criterion.

Though a scaling that takes both size and weight into account might be even better. Particularly for crashes involving pedestrians, cyclists and bikers, the size, and particulalry the height of the bonnet, are almost more significant than just the raw weight. A hollowed out F-450 weighing 1 ton is probably still more deadly to those people than a ~1.5-2 ton electric sedan.

This isn't really aimed at reducing adoption of big cars, more at getting the people who drive more dangerous vehicles, to drive with more regard for safety, and be penalised heavier when they don't.