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I Didn’t Have Eggs

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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not saying they can suffer. I'm saying you can't prove they are incapable.

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are so many things you can’t prove and yet still act upon, this is a stupid conversation. For literally every other animal out there, it’s proven that pain is only felt once it reaches the brain. Why would you somehow assume muscles now have a mini brain to process it locally.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I haven't assumed any such thing.

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Since a brain is required to process pain, how else do you suppose they would feel it?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

a brain is required to process pain

I don't know how you can begin to try to prove this

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How can you not? It’s the case for every other animal out there (knock them unconscious and they no longer feel pain). How would one even have what it takes to feel anything without a brain? Reacting to a stimuli and understanding it is not the same.

Besides, by this same logic of “this can’t be proven”, it also can’t be proven plants don’t feel pain, since they also have the equivalent of nerves and response to stimuli.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it seems like you're starting to understand that the negative claim "muscles can't experience suffering" is unprovable

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ll stop right there, feels like I’m talking to AI.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 weeks ago

have a nice day