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The creator of Disney’s canceled Star Wars series believes fan-driven commentary now shapes the franchise more than the movies themselves.

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[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

That actually might be a good thing considering how shit the prequel and sequel movies were.

This sounds a lot like "How dare fans make negative comments about bad shows and curb our attempts to make more of said bad show!"

Here's a hint make good shows like Andor with compelling characters and good writing. I don't hear anyone complaining about that show.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 4 months ago

I'm always surprised by the image quality in that screenshot. It looks like it's taken from a bad cam bootleg. But that is what the movie actually looks like. They phoned everything in, not just the story.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I absolutely love season 1, it might be the single best season of television I have ever seen. The acting, the sets, the music, the writing!, the way it weaves its themes into the story masterfully, ever second feels intentional and characters are real, breathing beings that grow and change and hurt, and how every action has a consequence and motivation. It's perfect.

Season 2 - to me - is bafflingly bad, with so many issues that I've legitimately, and somewhat ironically, given the topic of this post, considered starting a YouTube channel over it. It feels like after finally being given a good Starwars show in season 1, the fan-base has gaslit itself into liking season 2.

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Oh no. I haven't watched season 2 yet.

Are you telling me they took the home run, slam dunk, unbelievably good setup they had for Season 1 and fumbled it in season 2? I've specifically avoided spoilers and reviews cause we're going to watch it regardless given how good season 1 was.

Without spoilers, what made season 2 bad? Was it the same thing with Mando where they completely lost the plot in order to sell different characters and toys? Or...?

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 4 months ago

The only issue with season 2 is that it's basically 4 seasons crammed into one. Disney had cancelled the next four seasons for being too expensive so they tried to wrap up the story in one.

This is hardly visible though. Maybe tightening everything up actually benefitted the series.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, don't worry, not as bad as Mando. And again, plenty of people praise Andor S2 even beyond S1, so, don't get discouraged by just my opinion.

For me, the first arc was just... Bad. For multiple reasons, which you will discover. The second arc gets a lot better, the 3rd I actually really enjoyed and the 4th was... Ok.

Again. To me.

Discussing this without spoilers is difficult, but in very general terms: I feel like they threw overboard too much of the gritty realism for "cool" character moments. Instead of logically motivated decisions, things happen because plot. Chances for character development are squandered left and right. Everything is rushed (because apparently this should have been 4 seasons, not 4 arcs?), except when it is super dragged out for no reason. This deals a blow to the impact of scenes, because characters have no time to react to devastating occurrences. And, while petty, I have to mention it: the set design got way worse, esp. in arc 1, but also sometimes later on. Extremely obvious greenscreen/the volume scenes for scenes where it would have been trivial to find onsite locations.

It is still the best star wars out there, just... A 6.5/10 instead off 11/10.

In my personal opinion.

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for this. I'm happy to know it's still passable for you. Just sad to know they couldn't keep it up. Unbelievable that they wouldnt approve 4 seasons or front the cash for good set design.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah... But at the same time, they didn't HAVE to do 4 arcs and to catch up to Rogue One. They could have just made one arc into a season and given it the room to breathe.

Edit: there are seriously great sets in the Season, which just makes the... Suboptimal... Ones stand out.