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[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah and it’ll cost millions to tear up the roads and install overhead wires for the bus, just to service 1 neighbourhood out of hundreds, where hardly anyone uses public transit as it is.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

hardly anyone uses public transit as it is

Well, that's kind of the problem we're trying to fix here

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are lots of people who use public transit in my city, they just don’t live in the suburbs.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Well, that's kind of another problem we're trying to fix here

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't you realize how much it will cost us to not do that?

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

“It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not weakness, that is life.”

― Jean-Luc Picard

Sometimes we get stuck in local extrema. The biggest challenge facing the human race is not climate change, it’s collective action. Simply put, we’re unable to cooperate effectively enough on a large scale to be able to deal with these sorts of problems.

My city could invest billions of dollars in building a fully electric streetcar transit network and climate change could still proceed largely unabated due to the actions of other people in other areas. In that scenario, my city ends up losing because climate change happened and we wasted all that money on a system that didn’t stop climate change. This is the worse possible outcome so the rational thing (on an individual level, see game theory) to do is avoid it by doing nothing.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
  1. They need to tear up next to the road to install power poles
  2. No one uses public transport only when it's the worst option. In my town public transport is cheaper than parking and only a little slower than driving so a large share of commuters use public transport. Yours must be expensive or inconvenient or uncomfortable
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They’d have to tear down all the tall trees in the neighbourhood to make room for the power poles. There’s no way in hell the car-centric folks who live here would approve of that!

When you walk down the sidewalk around my street you walk in the shade of these trees most of the time. Replacing those trees with ugly power poles and overhead wires would ruin the character of the neighbourhood.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Quite so. Catenary wires work best in dense areas