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WhatsApp for business communications? Jesus
Whatapp is for business, and signal is for official government communication
Both are quite secure but neither of them stop an idiot on one end or the other from sharing the contents with the public.
I always find it funny how many people fail to understand the "end to end" part of end to end encryption.
If your endpoint isn't secure then the messages aren't.
whatsapp is closed source and meta owned. i think it's incredibly foolish to trust that it has no backdoors built in.
That's not how encryption works. But you're not wrong about it being owned by meta being a problem. There's more info in a message than just the contents.
you say that but they're already thinking a step ahead and assuming meta left a backdoor or CVE at the behest of 3-letter agencies.
What's facebook's business plan? Right, surveillance capitalism.
IIRC whatsapp’s automatic backups are stored in cloud and unencrypted by default. So it takes only one person in the group chat who has backups enabled (pop up reminds periodically if not) and no password is set (not required, takes effort and will to set) to leak everyone’s messages.
I assume no encryption is safe from three letter gangs, at this point I'm only concerned with keeping grubby corporate fingers at bay.
Isn’t that true for any communications tool?
Works better than Teams.
Probably has better privacy and confidentiality options too.
There's "WhatsApp for Business" & "WhatsApp Business Solutions".
Catch-up, grandpa!
I'm aware the technologies exist - I can't fathom wanting my sensitive communications served by meta.
Also, grandma* - my pronouns are right there.
Hey, just so you’re aware I’m reading this in Voyager and it does not display your pronouns like the web UI does.
It shows almost nothing and definitely leads to confusion about who is talking to who :(
Wait, what confusion? I use Voyager and I have no confusion about who is whom. I can see in the lower reply box that you are balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one.
The only issue with pronouns is that people who assume default maleness should be locked up anyway, so that’s an entirely separate issue.
Huh? What the heck did i just read?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_as_norm
Yeah...but then what should i do? Many people have as a mother tongue a language that is gendered (the case for many langs in europe and south america since they come from latin) and usually male is used as standard when you don't know the interlocutor gender or is used to describe a group that has 2 or more genders.
Saying something like
Is just wrong because you are just blaming innocent people for doing something they have been doing all their lives for reasons beyond their control.
That is exactly what buttnugget is trying to say in his words, at least how I interpret them. I just thought you were not knowing male default.
Other than that, I think we can and should try getting languages more and more to genderless state, but I think forcing it is not the way. (German in my case).
What people often forget, is that languages are always in change and adapting; always have and always will be.
I do my part on adapting language around me by preferring genderless while I talk and write; you get used to it pretty fast. And when you hear children talking, you recognise that they are on it too. Just don’t blame others for still using default male, I agree on that, as this only generates unnecessary conflict and hardening of sites.
Society should always stay fluid, in my opinion, or else we get to a fascist society pretty fast.
Context is important and voyager does not provide that. Many people respond to the wrong person in threads. For example you just replied to me about pronouns which isn't my topic.
Tbf, I don't read unames, and my app shows the pronouns in line with and the same color as the unames, so I don't read those either.
Literally no clue who I'm even responding to right now. Doesn't really matter who it is either, my response would be the same regardless of your race/gender/whatever else.
The one exception is whenever I see something profoundly stupid I will sometimes check the uname and go "ah yes cowbee again how predictable" but that's just pure entertainment and learning who here not to waste energy on, most comments are just comments and don't warrant that level of self preservation.
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml out here getting smoked on the regular 😅🤣
I think those are for sales, like b2c advertising. Not for how your business talks to each other internally to destroy databases.
Nope, we use WhatsApp for escalation from clients when a ticket is too important to wait. Works great. Management talks to management and passes to us.
With Whatsapp for Business? Cause that's a specific thing: https://business.whatsapp.com/