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I defo think we should run AOC over Newsom. That said, people staying home because voting for the lesser of two evils "violated their moral code" is how we ended up in our current situation. It is unbelievably selfish to prefer to say "at least my hands are clean" as the world grows drastically darker due to your inaction. I really hope we get to vote for AOC in 2028, but if we don't, then I am begging you to do some reflection and change your attitude.
It's strange to me that we're agitating for voters to change and not our leaders. It's fewer people you have to convince.
We're doing both. Mamdani and the new DNC leadership are proof of this. Please don't turn this into a false dichotomy; voter apathy still needs to be challenged at every turn, along with demanding better of our leadership.
Fair point. I wanted to call out how voters asking for better candidates is not voter apathy. Not that people who are apathetic to democracy don't need to be challenged.
AOC with a Bernie VP could win. With just AOC, your going to have a bunch of neolibs that will just sit out because they don't want to vote for a woman. It's fucking stupid, and counter productive, but it's true.
It’s not lesser of the two evils for me. Newsom strikes me as a smarter Trump seen through a Democratic curtain instead of a Republican one.
Voting for Biden and Harris were voting for the lesser of the two evils. Voting for Newsom is not. That’s how strongly I feel about Newsom.
While I would enthusiastically vote for AOC, it doesn’t have to be AOC to get my vote. Hell, id vote Whitmer - and she gives me slimy vibes.
the astroturf is strong with this one
Get ready for a lot more of it when the elections come around. This place will be crawling with that bullshit again.
Hey, maybe he's a true believer that just drank all the astroturf flavored Kool-aid.
Newsom is also not my preferred candidate. Yeah, it might lower enthusiasm and cause people to stay home, aka the opposite of Mamdami. But I'm not going to go tell my friends and everyone on the Internet not to vote because of it.
Yep, not my preferred either. Not even close. Primary is a bit away so it's absolutely fair to criticize right now. But the whole don't vote thing.. yeah fuck that.
I looked that up. I’m not representing other people or claiming that this will be a movement. If they run Newsom, they will lose my vote. If that doesn’t matter to them, so be it.
Newsome is terrible. He's a slimy rich boy who is exceptional at playing demographics.
People are excited cause this gerrymandering thing was a win. The dude has been enabling PG&E to kill hundreds of people in Northern California and handed them more power in relation to solar installation. He's not that far off from his democratic cuck podcast phase where he let popular republicans shit down his throat cause he thought that would make him more popular nationality.
Newsome will sell the nation out for money, or power, he doesn't care about California, he cares about looks. DNC loves a plastic-surgeried, rich candidate as much as republicans do. You can hope they do better, but people are shallow.
People like you discouraged votes for Harris, and handed Trump his second term.
Harris running a shitty campaign, standing proudly next to republicans, riding the coat-tails of a terrible president, and telling her voting base to sit down and shut up is what haneded Trump his second term.
I voted for Harris. I don't feel like this is the same.
What are newsomes previous policy choices or personal actions that would disqualify him in your view?
Vetoed PFAS ban: https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260sb682 Vetoed extra AI regulation: https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202320240sb1047
I can't find the reference right now, but there was a gig economy law that he vetoed.
He's anti-human rights: https://calmatters.org/politics/2025/03/newsom-transgender-athletes/