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So, today in AI hype, we are going back to chess engines!
Ethan pumping AI-2027 author Daniel K here, so you know this has been "ThOrOuGHly ReSeARcHeD" (tm)
Taking it at face value, I thought this was quite shocking! Beating a super GM with queen odds seems impossible for the best engines that I know of!! But the first * here is that the chart presented is not classical format. Still, QRR odds beating 1600 players seems very strange, even if weird time odds shenanigans are happening. So I tried this myself and to my surprise, I went 3-0 against Lc0 in different odds QRR, QR, QN, which now means according to this absolutely laughable chart that I am comparable to a 2200+ player!
(Spoiler: I am very much NOT a 2200 player... or a 2000 player... or a 1600 player)
And to my complete lack of surprise, this chart crime originated in a LW post creator commenting here w/ "pls do not share this without context, I think the data might be flawed" due to small sample size for higher elos and also the fact that people are probably playing until they get their first win and then stopping.
Luckily absolute garbage methodologies will not stop Daniel K from sharing the latest in Chess engine news.
But wait, why are LWers obsessed with the latest Chess engine results? Ofc its because they want to make some point about AI escaping human control even if humans start with a material advantage. We are going back to Legacy Yud posting with this one my friends. Applying RL to chess is a straight shot to applying RL to skynet to checkmate humanity. You have been warned!
LW link below if anyone wants to stare into the abyss.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/eQvNBwaxyqQ5GAdyx/some-data-from-leelapieceodds
I was wondering why Eliezer picked chess of all things in his latest "parable". Even among the lesswrong community, chess playing as a useful analogy for general intelligence has been picked apart. But seeing that this is recent half-assed lesswrong research, that would explain the renewed interest in it.