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[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world -3 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Assuming 25/hr minimum living wage: There are optional positions within businesses that are nice to have, but very simple, but can be opted to be done for any number of hours a day up to full time, and cannot be justified to carry 25/hr... You could have a company offering menial work on razor thin margins, but some people like working there, like scooping ice cream, which could not otherwise exist at 25/hr. There are small businesses that people want to work with that don't make enough to pay everyone 25/hr (ex. some small gyms). There are cases where low revenue businesses could pay with future equity, but cannot afford 25/hr now. You have to account for these cases in your rules.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Then do universal basic income. Now people are free to spend a couple hours scooping ice cream without risking their safety. Assuming your basic income is enough to cover a dignified life

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

This is likely a reasonable solution.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

You are both extremely bad at logic and math.

[–] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You have to account for these cases in your rules.

Why? They can't afford an employee. They shouldn't hire one.

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Already explained why... Lots of positions are just nice to have, but are subsidized already, entirely, by other positions that generate all revenue. In many cases you don't want the business to go away entirely, and in many cases the business wouldn't even fail, you'd just end up with the optional positions terminated, so those employees make 0/hr instead.

Another poster already contributed a valid solution of UBI.