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[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rock salt and slugs are both suggestions that instantly let me know the person making the suggestion isn't knowledgeable.

Neither of those two are popular home def rounds because they're impractical/gimmicky.

Slugs won't make people more dead than buckshot but they will make you deaf as shit and fly straight through drywall when you miss.

As for rocksalt, if you intend to shoot someone as a warning/de-escalation then you shouldn't own a gun.

Rocksalt is just brandishing with extra steps and theatrics.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

as a non-gun owner from Canada, my assumption was that the salt shot was for being non-lethal but the intruder doesn't know that. they just know they're being shot at by a fucking shotgun and want to gtfo.

then lethal rounds to follow up if they don't

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rocksalt had dogshit ballistic performance because A: it's not dense enough to carry it's momentum through the air and B: the "rocks" disintegrate during acceleration in the barrel. It's literally dust when it leaves the barrel.

Unless they're practically sucking on the muzzle it's not going to do anything more than sand in the wind.

Also putting salt in your barrel is super bad for it. You cannot regularly practice with these rounds without insane levels of effort via incessant cleaning.

More importantly though, there's a reason tazers and pepper spray don't look like guns. Pulling a gun out inherently brings things into a life or death situation because the assailant can't know it's less lethal.

If they have a gun they're just going to shoot at you without knowing your good intentions.

It doesn't make sense to escalate things just to use a lower escalation tool.

Warning shots are similarly bad while also giving away your position and ruining your first shot advantage. The first shot you take will be the most accurate, don't waste it.

Rocksalt and slugs are bait because they appear fantastic on paper but with any actual experience it's immediately apparent why these are not in widespread use.

I hope I'm not being preachy to you because it's totally understandable to have those beliefs. They're commonly repeated and without hands on experience they're ostensibly the most optimal.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

not preachy at all, in fact I appreciate the factual presentation instead of it all.

fwiw, I'm not making any claim that the non-lethal first shot is a good way to go. only that I could see somebody thinking that scaring someone off without having to deal with the legal fallout of killing/maiming them is a good idea. was trying to discern somebody else's intentions, not propose a plan myself.