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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] dumbass@aussie.zone 117 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Nazi America working hard on bringing the fourth Reich into reality.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 82 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

The line I've seen repeatedly is that White America is getting to see how African Americans and Latino migrants have been living since The War On Crime started.

Every day, we get to see another Rodney King or George Floyd. Wave after wave of police acting with utter impunity, doing unspeakable violence, while liberal leadership throws up it's hands or turns a blind eye.

FFS, this was in Chicago. Blatantly illegal, breaking a couple dozen state laws. The mayor, the governor, the CPD, the local prosecutors and sheriffs... where the fuck are they?

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's honestly astounding, as somebody that lives on the left coast, how many arguments I've had with people up here about this.

I think that they know how BIPOC have been treated, and much like homelessness, they want to ignore it and pretend it can never happen to them. The lie that white privilege renders you unassailable, is going to get shattered. We'll see how many of them rise to the occasion and how many bend the knee.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The lie that white privilege renders you unassailable

It's not a lie. We're just constricting the definition of whiteness. White people remain privileged. I'm a white guy in Houston, where a ton of the shit is going down, and I've never felt "safer".

But folks who thought they were "white" enough in Pasadena are experiencing something very different.

We’ll see how many of them rise to the occasion and how many bend the knee.

Hard to rise to the occasion when there's a boot on your neck. And in a place like Texas, it's very hard to find someone to trust much less organize with.

I don't begrudge folks who bend the knee to save their skin. Not when the alternative is to simply get added to the line of crucifixions.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 20 hours ago

It’s not a lie. We’re just constricting the definition of whiteness.

The fact that the definition can constrict is what I'm talking about. It is a lie that white privilege renders you unassailable, because as we see, the system can decide you're not white after all and haul you off anyways.

My family is mixed race, so I'm very cognizant that my skin tone will not save me if they decide I'm guilty by association. I'm privileged because I'm white enough to pass, but that evaporates as soon as people run a background check and my other name comes up.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago

The mayor, the governor, the CPD, the local prosecutors and sheriffs… where the fuck are they?

All holed up in their offices and wishing like hell it'll be their turn to be able to do this sort of thing next.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 21 hours ago

That already happened. Stop pretending it’s in the future.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

For real. Bringing? Brought.

Next step is finding out what these 4 guns per citizen is about.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

At least 3 out of 4 of it’s on the Nazis side I fear.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

They're about to be just as hungry