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Explanation: In the USA, there's a bizarrely persistent idea, particularly amongst right-wing types, that the US Civil War was fought over some reason other than racism and slavery, particularly the vague call of "States' Rights".
In reality, the secessionist Confederacy was quite open and proud about their original reasons for seceding being racism and slavery, and only after their slaver asses were crushed and chattel slavery was abolished did they start to make up post-war justifications to sound less abhorrent.
Good goose. Always challenge the dog whistle.
It was. The right of states to allow slavery and be racist.
(/s)
You don't need a /s, that's literally what it was.
It's just some people pretend that isn't what the rights were that the CSA fought for. Those people are morons.
The /s wasn't supposed to invert the meaning of the sentence before, it was just meant to mark it as a more humorous thing since OP explained exactly that in their comment.
But /s is to mark sarkasm?
I know, but there is no simple /[pleasedon'ttakethistooseriouslyit'shalfajokebutsomethingrealtoo]
I would use /jk for that for what it's worth but I got your meaning nonetheless.
What...?
Actually, it's really the opposite of that. The war wasn't over States's rights to allow slavery, it was over State's rights to disallow slavery. The Kansas-Nebraska act gave states the ability to decide if they wanted it or not, and the racists worried they would get outnumbered by non-slaving states, so they wanted slavery to be mandatory.
Bizarrely persistent because there are groups actively dedicated to promoting that idea. It's known as "the lost cause" and its biggest proponent are The Daughters of the Confederacy and the KKK
Also, slave states wanted the federal government to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act on non-slave states. Which is rather the opposite of states' rights.
Also in their constitution, explicitly prohibited states from abolishing slavery.
The United Daughters of the Confederacy played a significant role in whitewashing this history:
In its 1900 constitution the group declared its purpose “to preserve the memory of the Confederate soldiers and to foster the ideals of the Southern race.” Caroline Goodlett, a founder, wrote that the UDC would “protect the honor of the white man and the true history of the South.”
Woodrow Wilson literally wrote and distributed Lost Cause Revisionist History, using his Yale Historian and Presidential Credentials. Wilson segregated the federal government for the first time in history, refounded the KKK, screened Birth of a Nation at the White House, used the federal government to erect statues of traitors that said they should never be memorialized, and that's just some of his domestic policies.
Holy shit
Fuck Wilson, all my homies hate Woodrow Wilson
If I had a time machine I would stop in the 1970s to pick up some real McDonald's burgers and milkshakes. Then take them to Taft in 1911. If Teddy ran against Wilson unopposed, he would have stomped him into the dirt.
I think even more damning against the 'states' rights' argument is that at least one (I stopped at finding one, lol) confederate state constitution explicitly disallowed abolishing slavery, so that state literally didn't have the right to make their own decision on the matter down the line, lol.
IIRC, there's 2 that do that explicitly - I want to say it was Texas and North Carolina, but I can't be bothered to double check that.
Edit: was bothered by my lack of "bringing the reciepts" in my own comment. It appears 5 of the confederate States called out slavery in their articles of succession (tried to do a quick double check, but jfc did GA have a really long winded one and I ain't got time for that right now)
Used to be, when racists had to keep their feelings on the down low. Haven't heard "state's rights" in ages. And I'm in the Deep South.