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[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 30 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Why is this a surprise? IP Logging is pretty normal for any service.

2.5 IP logging: by default, we do not keep permanent IP logs in relation with your Account. However, IP logs may be kept temporarily to combat abuse and fraud, and your IP address may be retained permanently if you are engaged in activities that breach our Terms of Service (e.g. spamming, DDoS attacks against our infrastructure, brute force attacks). The legal basis of this processing is our legitimate interest to protect our service against non-compliant or fraudulent activities. If you enable authentication logging for your Account or voluntarily participate in Proton's advanced security program, the record of your login IP addresses is kept for as long as the feature is enabled. This feature is off by default, and all the records are deleted upon deactivation of the feature. The legal basis of this processing is consent, and you are free to opt in or opt out of that processing at any time in the security panel of your Account. The authentication logs feature records login attempts to your Account and does not track product-specific activity, such as VPN activity.

Source: Their privacy policy.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 16 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

That’s some funny language around “May be obtained permanently” though. Is this minority report? Do they know ahead of time that someone is going to violate their TOS?

That said, I’m not totally against proton mail. It’s a lot better than other free alternatives. Of which there are few left. I’m sure Gmail tracks the IP of your rectum.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This seems necessary if they're to maintain an IP ban list. You shouldn't just be able to unban yourself by submitting an information deletion request.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

This is stupid though. IP addresses in many homes rotate, so IP ban lists are utterly ineffective and could very well ban the wrong people.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 10 points 20 hours ago

I would rather they have funny language in their privacy policy opposed to mandatory logging, they have to cover themselves legally as well so they got to utilize legal-ise so they aren’t sued into the dirt.

I’m sure Gmail tracks the IP of your rectum.

I bet Google predicted you would say that!