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[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn. They didn’t seem so wild especially compared to the flow of yours. All mediums / techs you listed are complex technologies that take efforts to setup. Compared to the ubiquitousness of email. How do you propose to make that as available to the baseline human being?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Email is much more difficult to configure than most of these services. Some of them require no configuration at all. You just open the app, type in the recipient's address, and Bob's your uncle.

For others, it's already available through community projects like AdminForge and Disroot.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Users don’t need to configure email that’s kind of the point… and the receiving side of most of your techs still had to eventually setup the server side right? Adminforge is Linux tutorials, hardly something for the basic user. And disroot has not the best reputation if I can trust the few top links in my search results due to its gtc where they mentioned that they would collaborate in criminal investigations as well.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Users don’t need to configure email that’s kind of the point…

Users don't "need" to configure these services either. That's the entire point.

You can either configure it yourself, or use someone else's that has configured it for you. Or you can choose one of the p2p apps that simply don't require any configuration. That's the entire point.

Adminforge is Linux tutorials

AdminForge runs a variety of services for public use.

And disroot has not the best reputation if I can trust the few top links in my search results due to its gtc where they mentioned that they would collaborate in criminal investigations as well.

Much like Proton (and every other company/org), they have to either choose to comply or close up shop.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But then you need to trust another party which is just moving the problem along…

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These are your choices. There's no other way.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But that was the entire point from the first reply. If you don't trust external hosts, there is nothing for you.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

You already forgot the other choices...

Self hosting and p2p