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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

so you want to wait until it beats Russia in all authoritarian metrics before acknowledging the problem?

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

No, I think we can acknowledge the problems surrounding digital ID, the surveillance state, prosecuting whistleblower journalists who leak classified information, and many other problematic policies and institutions WITHOUT resorting to a rediculous comparison and insane hyperbole.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

so being half way into authoritarianism is "insane hyperbole"?

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I have yet to see UK election officials being caught on CCTV stuffing ballet boxes.

I have yet to see the Police arresting people for being gay in public.

I have yet to see the BBC be handed notes live on air and completely change the narrative around an ongoing war.

So yeah, the original comment saying "the UK is more authoritarian than Russia" is insane hyperbole.

Ironically, your comment about the UK being halfway to as authoritarian as somewhere like Russia is more interesting as we can get into the details as how they are currently similar and how much further the UK would have to slide to be there, and presumably how to stop it.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

again, so you want to see all the boxes ticked before you call a spade a spade?... not a great strategy but you do you

I have yet to see the Police arresting people for being gay in public.

No, but there is this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9vrjkev802o

I have yet to see the BBC be handed notes live on air and completely change the narrative around an ongoing war.

No, but there is this:

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/ideas/media/64534/how-the-government-captured-the-bbc

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And so what's your threshold for calling a spade a spade? Is a trowel a spade? Is a spoon a spade? Is a flat bit of wood a spade?

Do you understand the concept of neuance or shades of grey or do you doggedly stick to black and white?

Must be blissfull to see the world with strict category boundaries and be willingly ignorant of anything on a spectrum that doesn't fit into your nice and neat categories.

Not my thing, but you do you boo.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Dude my point is as follows:

  • there is an exaggerated claim on the table
  • you can call it hyperbole, as it is, maybe even criticize it, and then move on a discuss the merits it stands on

Instead, you call it hyperbole and proceed to explain why it's hyperbole and refuse to discuss any merit. That is just being pedantic.

OP: "so a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar"

You: "no, I refuse to hear the joke because it's extremely unlikely religious people of different denominations drink together at bars"

Do you understand the concept of neuance or shades of grey or do you doggedly stick to black and white?

I do, which is why, I understand calling the UK worse than Russia is hyperbole but still get the gist of the comment

Must be blissfull to see the world with strict category boundaries...

Are you talking about yourself? refusing to even acknowledge the gist of the OP comment because it is hyperbole and not a check list like the one you provided?

[–] WALLACE@feddit.uk -2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
  1. Palestine Action is a terror group. They committed violent terror acts against the UK and got designated as such in response. It doesn't matter if you're a senile 83 year old woman, it's still illegal to support a terror group.

  2. Wtf is that "prospect magazine" link? Looks like some weird anti-jew conspiracy website. I really hope you don't get your news from places like that.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

sure brother.. I guess all these people asking for a stop the genocide were also tERroRisTSs

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/uk-police-conduct-end-genocide-protest-and-subsequent-arrests-are-seriously

keep your head in the sand as long as you feel safe... just be aware that when fascism has taken over and satisfies your definition, it will be too late.. just look at USA

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 14 hours ago
  1. Sesame Street is a terror group. They commited violent terror acts against the UK and got designated as such in response. It doesn't matter if you're a senile 83 year old woman, it's still illegal to support a terror group.

  2. Wtf is that “BBC” link? Looks like some weird anti-muppet conspiracy website. I really hope you don’t get your news from places like that.

This you? Choking on a bag of boots and dicks?

You’re a fucking joke and your progeny will be ashamed to be descended from such a milquetoast rat.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Yes, and then ideally wait some more while i masturbate about the problem. And ideally bit more until i die of old age sucking this sweet delicious boot.