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ProtonMail Logged IP Address of French Activist; Should You Be Worried About Your Privacy? (beebom.com)
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[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ProtonMail does not log things by default, but they can still be court ordered to do so by swiss authorities - if you want to run any business at all, you have to submit to a jurisdiction, you can only choose which one to run under. And even if your chosen authority is alright by itself, it can still be misled by other jurisdictions like the French did, using the terror-cudgel against climate activists.

I can also recall that in this case Proton said that had their user actually bothered to use any VPN, even Proton's, there wouldn't have been anything to give to authorities except for an exit node IP.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Proton said that had their user actually bothered to use any VPN, even Proton’s, there wouldn’t have been anything to give to authorities except for an exit node IP.

"She shouldn't have dressed that way."

Proton could do better, and it's ridiculous that there are people out here okay with them not doing better.

[–] Arcka@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Our legal entity is in Sweden, where the law does not allow for any government to force us to spy on our users.

You'll agree that Proton doing better would require them to move to a different country, right?

Also Mullvad doesn't offer email accounts, does it? Seems that they couldn't have a 'no user data' policy if they did since the emails would be exactly that.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You’ll agree that Proton doing better would require them to move to a different country, right?

I'm okay with this. Sweden isn't exactly known as a bastion of freedom. Our current minister of equality (Liberals) is pushing for a porn ban. The EU proposal colloquially called "Chat Control" was originally put forth by the Swedish EU Commissioner Ylva Johansson who belongs to the Social Democrats.

Also Mullvad doesn’t offer email accounts, does it? Seems that they couldn’t have a ‘no user data’ policy if they did since the emails would be exactly that.

You'll forgive me if I don't feel like it's productive to repeat myself, but if you genuinely care for a response you can view it here: https://pawb.social/comment/18804733

Have a good one.