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Jimmy Wales (wikipedia founder) joins Gaza genocide talk page, says Genocide is contested and pleades for "neutrality" (en.wikipedia.org)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus to c/wikipedia@lemmy.world

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Quote from him:

I assume good faith of everyone who has worked on this Gaza “genocide” article. At present, the lede and the overall presentation state, in Wikipedia’s voice, that Israel is committing genocide, although that claim is highly contested.

A neutral approach would begin with a formulation such as: “Multiple governments, NGOs, and legal bodies have described or rejected the characterization of Israel’s actions in Gaza as genocide.”

Respect for Jimmy Wales 📉📉

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

He keeps saying "this is debated" and "the article fails", but doesn't specific where or how. I think he's just visibly inserting himself into the discussion in order to signal to outsiders that he, personally, disagrees with the genocide claim, no doubt expecting some news coverage of his self-insertion. "Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales clashes with editors on Israel genocide claim!" kinda shit. Doing this futile hand-wringing in public using his public account, and responding to half-a-dozen or so comments to make it look like he's engaging, is all that's required for him to be able to look funders and publishers in the eye without being held personally 'accountable' to the genocide deniers he deals with.

Fuck off Jimmy 😴 And shout out to the dedicated editors who are schooling the daft cunt on the rules of his own creation.

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I just figured he was trying to save Wikipedia from getting axed by those in power in some countries who are pushing back very hard against anything that has sentences containing both "Israel" and "genocide" in it.

We've hit such staggeringly outrageous levels of "forced propaganda" in the U.S. (people getting fired from their jobs for speaking I'll of a dead guy?) that if I was Jimmy, I'd be worried about the whole thing going away if it catches the eye of the wrong person at the wrong time. I don't agree with what he's doing for whatever reason, but the fact is that while Cloudflare may be able to survive 2.2 whattabytes[sic] per second, Wikipedia will not.