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[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you feel the need to run an uninspiring candidate against a fascist that inspires his base, you’re not giving your all against fascism. Bring in someone who can inspire voters, rather than “second worst by as narrow a margin as we think we can get away with.”

Yeah, true that. I don't even like Gavin Newsom, that's why I was offering a more credible way to pressure him to be better on particular issues if we do wind up in that awful situation where it's Newsom vs. JD Vance or some stupid decision like that.

Or admit that you would prefer second worst even if it means losing to hitler.

I like how a particular type of commenter likes to make up total nonsense that no one is saying, and then throws down a challenge to "admit that" instead of... IDK, more or less any other way of engaging lol.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that’s why I was offering a more credible way to pressure him to be better

We saw how such pressure worked out with harris. Anyone who said that democrats had no business supporting genocide was assumed to be a tankie/russian/chinese/child/shill/republican/trumper/bot or whatever category was convenient for genocide supporting centrists use to dismiss people they hate for being to the left of netanyahu.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know what I expected, replying to that comment lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I say genocide is bad, and you call me alt-right for saying it. Thank you for the absolutely perfect illustration of exactly what I was talking about.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I didn't call you alt-right. I was highlighting that you responded to a fair counterpoint (that I obviously agree about running better candidates in addition to pressuring the existing ones to be better) by just totally ignoring it and pivoting to another accusation unrelated to what we had been talking about.

Similar to this flow of conversation. See if it rings true:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA&t=21s

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I didn't call you alt-right.

Yeah, that totally wasn't your intent.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au -1 points 2 days ago

Another pivot, not addressing the substance of what I said! Fun stuff lol

I have no idea whether you are alt-right, I don't think it is particularly likely. All I am doing is calling out the type of bad faith argument you're employing.