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White House officials, at the start of the shutdown, were certain the Trump administration was better positioned to battle the left during a funding lapse.

In early October, several Trump administration officials had a friendly pool going of how long the shutdown would last. The White House, at the time, was confident Democrats would quickly fold.

No one guessed more than 10 days.

The account, relayed by a person close to the White House granted anonymity to discuss internal thinking, underscores just how much the administration miscalculated the Democrats’ will to keep the government closed even amid furloughs and imperiled social programs like food assistance.

As the shutdown heads into its second month, Donald Trump is increasingly frustrated. On Thursday, he called for Republicans to abolish the filibuster to reopen the government — a plea he knows is futile, but that demonstrates his growing irritation with Democrats, said a second person close to the White House.

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[–] RegularJoe@lemmy.world 92 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Other things Trump thought would be quick:

  • Balancing the budget – Vowed to eliminate the deficit quickly, but national debt soared.

  • Building the border wall – Promised rapid construction, but faced years of legal, logistical, and funding hurdles.

  • COVID-19 containment – Predicted it would “go away,” but the pandemic lasted years with major health and economic fallout.

  • Draining the swamp – Vowed to clean up Washington fast, but faced entrenched bureaucracy and ethics scandals.

  • Ending birthright citizenship – Floated quick executive action, but faced constitutional barriers.

  • Ending the war in Afghanistan – Promised quick withdrawal, but the process spanned years and ended chaotically.

  • Ending transgender participation in sports – Promised swift bans, but faced legal challenges and state-level resistance.

  • Fixing the VA – Promised rapid reform, but systemic issues persisted.

  • Infrastructure overhaul – Promised a “big, beautiful” plan, but no major package passed during his first term.

  • Mass deportations – Claimed swift action, but implementation was slow and legally contested.

  • North Korea denuclearization – Expected quick diplomacy, but talks stalled and no deal was reached.

  • Overhauling education policy – Proposed sweeping changes, but implementation was slow and uneven.

  • Peace in the Middle East – Announced breakthroughs, but conflicts like Israel-Iran flared up again within days.

  • Quick impeachment acquittals – Predicted fast dismissals, but proceedings were lengthy and politically charged.

  • Repealing Obamacare – Declared it would be easy, but failed to pass repeal legislation despite Republican control.

  • Replacing NAFTA – Took years to renegotiate and ratify USMCA.

  • Reviving coal jobs – Claimed fast resurgence, but the industry continued to decline.

  • Trade deal with China – Predicted a fast win, but negotiations dragged on and escalated into a trade war.

  • Winning legal battles – Often predicted fast victories, but faced prolonged investigations and trials.

Government and speed go together like car tires and peanut butter.

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When you have no experience with real work, there’s zero chance you have the ability to accurately estimate work

[–] Septimaeus 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On top of that, surrounding yourself with fake experts (chosen specifically for their willingness to say anything you want to hear) seems like a great way to never know what’s actually going on.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Taco seems like Peak SNAFU principle (From Robert Anton Wilson) in action.

https://hackersdictionary.com/html/entry/SNAFU-principle.html

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's almost like people who don't understand how govt works shouldn't be president. Or even be allowed to vote, for that matter. It seems like people think there's a magic wand that the top guy can wave and everything just falls into place.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think that voter registration should work like driver licensing. And the test you have to pass should be the citizenship exam.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Appealing as the idea is, the problem is who gets to control the exams.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's a fair criticism. We know how poll testing has historically been used to disenfranchise minority groups.

That's why I suggested the citizenship exam, which is a well-established test with specific parameters and existing preparation programs.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but who decides what's on the citizenship exam? Who updates it? Who's in charge of making sure it's administered fairly?

Right now there's not really any power to be gained by subverting it, so it's handled by people who are interested in keeping it working well. Make it the gateway to electoral control, and interest groups will worm their way into control of it - and then you have a variant on poll testing.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

You're right. I just wish politicians would just let us have nice things.

[–] HotDog7@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He said he'd have the war in Ukraine ended on day one.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

On day one, he did try to force them to surrender.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Draining the swamp – Vowed to clean up Washington fast, but faced entrenched bureaucracy and ethics scandals.

Well, and some things are complete delusion on his part as well as conservatives. If anything, Taco created the swamp.

Reviving coal jobs – Claimed fast resurgence, but the industry continued to decline.

And some things, for instance, this and the wall and repealing ACA, and ruining/"overhauling" education, are just plain not worth doing.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Government and speed go together like car tires and peanut butter.

Steel-belted latex satay just takes a lot of slow cooking.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

My grandma's 28hr slow roasted goodyears were "fall off the rim" tender.