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I'm Asian. Don't take my just-rising living standards away from me.
Also, we can reduce our footprint, but it's small compared to corporate bullshit. We could ALL reduce our footprint and it wouldn't be enough to make the environment not-the-next-generations problem.
Nothing is being taken away. You and your countries have the biggest chance at actually making things better! Rising living standards doesn't mean "copy the West and all its mistakes". Don't look at the West as if they have it all figured out.
You could have walkable, green cities and towns, with amazing public transport! It costs less than forcing everybody to have a car, keeps more people healthy as there will be less pollution of all kinds (noise, particles, chemical, industrial, ...), and makes for much happier citizens.
You could invest in green technologies like solar, wind, hydrogen, heat exchangers, etc. It will mean cheaper bills for everything (transport, heating, cooling, appliances, ...) and much less dependence on foreign companies (once things are set up). No more oil and gas imports would be amazing for your country's autonomy.
Going green doesn't mean worse living standards, it means exactly the opposite. You could leapfrog the West and raise the living standards for millions of your countrymen and countrywomen.
Kenya is an excellent example of this. 90% of its electricity is from renewable sources and its aiming for 100% by 2030.
Awesome! That sounds amazing. Does that mean less diesel and gasoline cars (or less cars in general)?
I'm not against any of that. But all that requires buy in and commitment from govt, and we're no less corrupt than anybody else.
Yeah, that's definitely a big problem in the west too. It just seemed like you were connecting high living standards to a polluting lifestyle. I hope Asia, Africa, and South America can just skip all the polluting bullshit and go straight to green. Good luck! I saw Thailand wants to have a high speed rail from its capital to the most northern city, which is great! At least that's happening.
Things you can do yourself. Select those that are right for you:
edit: how did I forget: every time I hear someone say they can't do anything why bother, I want to say you sound exactly like the boomer in the cartoon, it's funny how so many people blame boomers for doing nothing but then simultaneously argue that it's not worth doing anything
You have an opportunity unlike the rest of us to have rising living standards in addition to not contributing to the problem
Solar + Battery + EV's will save you billions of petro-dollars not going to the likes of Russia/Saudi Arabia/Iran etc
I can already see that this is not reality:
Recently announced in Vietnam:
https://apnews.com/article/vietnam-evs-motorbikes-yamaha-vinfast-4ab76826787a806392655b843c374f3a
That's 3.5 million small footprints that will soon be making a positive impact :)
This is not a zero sum game, every single little bit helps
Just because its small doesn't mean it doesn't have an impact. I want to be able to tell the next generations I tried in ways thst made my life less convenient.
On my street alone (in thr US), half the houses have massive lighting setups and inflatables for Halloween and they're about to switch them over for Christmas. Three months of absolutely unecessary electric usage. Sure one can argue that if they shut them off it wouldn't have a world changing impact but it's hard not to look at that and go wtf?