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[Vote] Should we defederate from maga.place? (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 5 days ago by kersploosh@sh.itjust.works to c/agora@sh.itjust.works
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A bit over a month ago, a user posted in !main@sh.itjust.works to propose defederating from maga.place. That post was followed by a discussion in !agora@sh.itjust.works a week ago, which seems to have gained some traction. In response, we're going to hold a vote on the matter. Voting will be open for one week, through Friday, November 7.

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https://sh.itjust.works/post/48420886

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Similar discussion at lemmy.ca: https://sh.itjust.works/post/46502305

Other fediverse instances are also defederating: https://sh.itjust.works/post/48111431

The instance's page at Fediseer: https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/detail/maga.place

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

From that article:

While difficult to counter, the German Marshall Fund, RAND, and military strategists have described techniques to respond to the firehose of falsehood, generally involving preempting it with good information, strategically reducing or removing misinformation, and teaching digital literacy.

With something like Lemmy, I think that means:

  1. Make high quality posts with good information
  2. Reporting misinformation
  3. If mods don't remove the misinformation, escalate to an admin
  4. If the admin doesn't remove misinformation, then discuss defederation

What I'm seeing here is:

  1. Instance says MAGA, and MAGA = bad
  2. Posts on that instance are largely conservative, and conservative = bad
  3. We should defederate

That's not the right process. Maybe we should defederate, IDK, but I do know we need evidence of bad action before jumping to defederation, and nothing in this post or the linked posts have any evidence.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

strategically reducing or removing misinformation

Like excluding servers that are unambiguously for shrill propaganda.

The whole fucking place explicitly exists to promote misinformation - they are fascists. Stop sanewashing it by pretending there's piecemeal issues to escalate and check up on, when every single post is immediately obvious as dangerous nonsense.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

they are fascists

Then prove it. If moderation on their end fails to remove problematic content and users, I'll join you in supporting a ban. But I am unwilling to support a ban based on what I've seen, which is basically my second numbered list.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

The name of the fucking site is a fascist slogan.